Earlier quoted context omitted.
If it's using an LLM it'll make stuff up... about people and sex trafficking.
LLMs could never hallucinate anything as shocking as the current reality...
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Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#22The Jamazon interface is really nice. I like how clicking on the order number takes you to the email. But I'm not going spend much time on there, after seeing his order for Lolita next to orders for kid toys. https://jmail.world/jamazon
Along with the orders for kids school uniform skirts a bit later.. tough viewing in context.
Makes it unsettling when it then shows orders for books you've also read. Hard to swallow having anything in common with such a person.
I would have also assumed he got his clothes from much fancier places than Amazon, considering his wealth. Can't beat two day shipping I guess.
Altogether his Amazon orders are disturbing in places, but also somewhat humanizing, which is not what I expected.
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#23Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Very excited to see that someone finally made Jemini good! Our development process has been interesting. Although just Riley and I first made Jmail, it's been really gratifying to see companies, journalists, and fellow developers like Diego rise to the occasion to make this entire suite of apps as high quality and extensive as possible.
> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff. However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee…
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name.
He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below
https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?...
These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
That’s just a campaign email with “Pedophiles” as the recipient name, right? Anyone can sign an email address up to a mailing list. All of Trump’s campaign emails are these type of overly friendly weird junk.
Sure, but the email itself doesn't seem to be a part of the archives of Epstein's emails (which would be an issue), it seems like it has been added manually by the admins of Jmail, as it's not coming from the files that were recently released.
Jmail is a mix of sources.
“The Jmail Suite is an interactive archive of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, documents, photos, and more. Data compiled from the House Oversight Committee, Department of Justice, and DDoSecrets releases”
If I understand correctly, the emails you’re looking at are from a leak that is only accessible to journalists — so Drop Site News (as journalists) have access and have published some.
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff. However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee…
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name. He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?... These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
Also, that says "Verified by Drop Site News", not Sponsored by. That's because Drop Site redacted these real Yahoo emails and gave them to Jmail. The original Yahoo dataset, which the DOJ and House Oversight Committee did not release, is stewarded by DDoSecrets (https://ddosecrets.org/article/epstein-emails).
This Yahoo dataset, which we helped release after launching the first Jmail, also proved Epstein's connection to Iran-Contra (!!). Now immortalized on Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeffrey_Epstein#Financial_trou...)
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Jmail maintainer and co-creator here. Great, I've been looking to be able to contact you somewhere, hardly a better place :) Thanks for sharing the project btw, and for keeping jmail alive, been useful to dig into some stuff. However, there seems to be some "injected" or "fake" emails, that I cannot figure out why they're there in the first place. For example this one: https://jmail.world/thread/55b91b46ef1e4487bee…
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name. He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?... These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
> These are all real emails!
Why do the rest of the emails provide a link to the online file (original one hosted at justice.gov) but the "sponsored"/ad ones do not?
This for example: https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox
Has a "View Original Document" which takes you to kind-of-the-source (ideally should have been link to justice.gov but better than nothing I suppose), but for the emails with the Dropsite ad, it seems there is no original document?
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Care to elaborate?
for another angle - depending on the provider, theyre going to train on these queries and responses, and i dont want folks training an Epstein LLM, or accidentally putting Epstein behaviour into LLMs
Use an abliterated LLM and you can have it act like the worst person you can imagine.
I'm also pretty sure these docs are already being used for training, whether or not Jmail / Jemini exists.
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yeah, those are mailing lists that people signed him up for after he died, including with a joke name. He was a very famous figure in August 2019, and normal people spammed his inbox with emails like the below https://jmail.world/thread/4accfb5f3ed84656e9762740081a4579?... These are all real emails! We can do a better job making this clear to the user.
> These are all real emails! Why do the rest of the emails provide a link to the online file (original one hosted at justice.gov) but the "sponsored"/ad ones do not? This for example: https://jmail.world/thread/HOUSE_OVERSIGHT_016203?view=inbox Has a "View Original Document" which takes you to kind-of-the-source (ideally should have been link to justice.gov but better than nothing I suppose), but for the emails with…
https://jmail.world/thread/07ff1467c0f2bb976664ecafc5829aa4?...
Many Yahoo emails do show you the original source, and the original is just an EML file. These were files directly exported from Epstein's Yahoo account. Bloomberg used these EMLs to confirm that the Yahoo emails are real (https://www.bloomberg.com/news/newsletters/2025-09-12/epstei...).
We don't tamper with these EMLs, so we currently don't make the EML accessible if the team had to redact any contents of that email.
See this for example.
https://jmail.world/thread/97d4a52d1df3948368770068262d2aab?...
We can fix examples where there are no redactions yet no EML download is available
Re: Show HN: Jemini – Gemini for the Epstein Files
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sure, but the email itself doesn't seem to be a part of the archives of Epstein's emails (which would be an issue), it seems like it has been added manually by the admins of Jmail, as it's not coming from the files that were recently released.
Jmail is a mix of sources. “The Jmail Suite is an interactive archive of Jeffrey Epstein's emails, documents, photos, and more. Data compiled from the House Oversight Committee, Department of Justice, and DDoSecrets releases” If I understand correctly, the emails you’re looking at are from a leak that is only accessible to journalists — so Drop Site News (as journalists) have access and have published some. https://d…
Correct. https://jmail.world/about explains it all.
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