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Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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What tech stack did you use?

from OP comment history: > So I’ve always had this weird obsession with building my own iMessage agent - like, imagine your own bot living inside your iPhone, sending messages, replying smartly, maybe even trolling your friends a little Then I found out companies like Linq Blue and SendBlue (both YC) charge over $1000/month just to do this. Yeah, no thanks. So I built it myself. iMessageKit is an open-source TypeScri…

I think the tech stack is interesting, don’t agree with OP tasteless choices here (hitler basically) and still, think the work is implemented well -especially iMessage integration.

Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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I am hesitant to shoot down anyone's work in Show HN but this is deliberate obscenity in service of (I assume) rage baiting. It's all well for art to be transgressive and offensive but if it's not in service of a goal remotely worth having then it's juvenile. Breathing life into a vile monster who remains a contentious subject is just gross and not worth publishing. OP, I think your work on integrating with iMessage…

With vibe coding, now you can implement the worst ideas of your brain within couple of hours. Certainly a great tech that will cure cancer by 2027

Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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“Get your phone number flagged by the authorities in minutes! Don’t wait, start today!”

Flagged because…

interest in the Epstein legal case?

interest in the supposed personality of “success”?

interest in intelligence agencies?

interest in technical projects on HN?

What’s theoretically getting someone flagged, here, in your opinion? Your comment’s a little light.

Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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post #5

asked it who it was > jeff epstein, financier > just chillin rn lol > u? hilarious project, an awkward omegle chat with a dead pedophile

I took a close look at the November document drop, which had some iChat backups. He really did text kind of like an imbecile. The tone is in his emails too.

The stupidest people are the most confident,

the most confident people run our society.

Take note, HN. You might change the world by simply believing in yourself a little.

Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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post #16

Abysmally shallow. Clearly trained on documents centred upon his legal case and not, for example, of whatever mathematical talents got him a teaching position, allowed him to bluff his way past the likes of Marvin Minsky, and what (if anything) drove his investment strategies.

Obviously it can only be trained on available documents and not the abstract essence of his actual personality, "talents" or what have you.

Any attempt to model a human being like this is going to be abysmally shallow, yet for some reason it's an industry unto itself, for everything from dead celebrities to Jesus Christ to lost loved ones.

Re: Show HN: Epstein IM – Talk to Epstein clone in iMessage

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post #15

I am hesitant to shoot down anyone's work in Show HN but this is deliberate obscenity in service of (I assume) rage baiting. It's all well for art to be transgressive and offensive but if it's not in service of a goal remotely worth having then it's juvenile. Breathing life into a vile monster who remains a contentious subject is just gross and not worth publishing. OP, I think your work on integrating with iMessage…

You simply don't know what the goal was. I would think that breathing life into a vile monster would, among other things, tend to make his monsterism more obvious to observers, and perhaps elicit responses exactly like yours. For all you know, maybe that was the goal. (I'm entertaining your whole "goal" rubric for a minute, but since you brought it up in the context of art, I don't feel comfortable with the idea that art needs to have a goal other than "art itself." Art with a goal is arguably propaganda or advertising. But I don't hold that view rigidly either.)

Added a few minutes later:

Not knowing someone's motivations, and making up something to fill the blank, leads to errors, most of which seem to lean toward shallowly trivializing and dehumanizing the one whose motives are unknown and guessed-at. Could it be that they are a fully-functioning adult with an actual rationale for their actions that you just don't know of?

Allegory: A motorist sees a cyclist on the road, can't understand why they would do that to themselves, and assumes, in the blinding light of their own opinion and car-only experience, that it must be because of a death wish. Based on that shitty reasoning you could go all sorts of places - for example, thinking it would be OK to run over the stupid asshole since they're obviously some other species that is too dumb to protect itself inside a car as do all good folk like me.

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