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Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by Tepix »

everfree wrote: post #4

I believe an open source ranking algorithm is antithetical to good search, sadly. It hands spammers a recipe for how to push past legitimate sites to dominate the search results.

The topic of ranking mechanisms sits at the core of many of our issues with social networks and centrally operated instances. I think it deserves far more attention.

And these algorithms should be open source and we should be able to pick our own and mash them.

Related:

Build Your Own Timeline Algorithm: A Blueprint

https://blog.mozilla.ai/build-your-own-timeline-algorithm-a-...

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by Tiberium »

Right now it seems like the project is just a thin wrapper over Brave Search. Building a complete search engine is way harder than that. You could look into using https://github.com/MarginaliaSearch/MarginaliaSearch if you want to run a real search index - https://marginalia-search.com/ is powered by it.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by axiolite »

Doesn't seem to like double-quoted search strings:

  SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data
Single-quotes don't seem to work (doesn't change search results... doesn't exclude irrelevant results that don't contain the exact string).

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by UnmappedStack »

axiolite wrote: post #23

Doesn't seem to like double-quoted search strings: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data Single-quotes don't seem to work (doesn't change search results... doesn't exclude irrelevant results that don't contain the exact string).

Oh! I will make sure to fix that, thank you for the bug report!

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by UnmappedStack »

Tiberium wrote: post #22

Right now it seems like the project is just a thin wrapper over Brave Search. Building a complete search engine is way harder than that. You could look into using https://github.com/MarginaliaSearch/MarginaliaSearch if you want to run a real search index - https://marginalia-search.com/ is powered by it.

Yup, it is pretty much just a better frontend for existing search. I want to build my own index and ranking algorithm in the future, but sadly it's quite resource intensive so it will depend on financial viability a bit in terms of timeframe.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by axiolite »

DeepSeaTortoise wrote: post #10

I'm in no way an expert, but IMO there is a major misconception in the free-ish software community that profit should be at most secondary to offering a fair and as good as sustainably possible product. I strongly disagree with this. IMO developers of free-ish as in freedom products OWE it, not only to themselves, but their community to be as profitable as possible within the rules they think that should be followed…

> developers of free-ish as in freedom products OWE it, not only to themselves, but their community to be as profitable as possible

Wikipedia seems to do just fine without.

Commercializing a product is a whole other field, and it's not reasonable to expect everyone to be good at that, and not reasonable to expect developers to all take on a second job of commercializing their hobby projects.

Why don't YOU commercialize your fork of their service, and use the proceeds to hire developers to maintain the code? That would be infinitely more useful than armchair criticism of others.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by RadiozRadioz »

UnmappedStack wrote: post #25
Tiberium wrote: post #22

Right now it seems like the project is just a thin wrapper over Brave Search. Building a complete search engine is way harder than that. You could look into using https://github.com/MarginaliaSearch/MarginaliaSearch if you want to run a real search index - https://marginalia-search.com/ is powered by it.

Yup, it is pretty much just a better frontend for existing search. I want to build my own index and ranking algorithm in the future, but sadly it's quite resource intensive so it will depend on financial viability a bit in terms of timeframe.

So it's not a search engine, it's a frontend for a search engine.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by consp »

axiolite wrote: post #23

Doesn't seem to like double-quoted search strings: SyntaxError: JSON.parse: unexpected character at line 1 column 1 of the JSON data Single-quotes don't seem to work (doesn't change search results... doesn't exclude irrelevant results that don't contain the exact string).

Escaping and encapsulating input data strikes again.

Re: Show HN: My not-for-profit search engine with no ads, no AI, & all DDG bangs

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Post by thesdev »

Searching for "DOMContentLoaded" gives me an error "'noresults' is not valid JSON" and the page gets stuck in an infinite refresh loop.

Edit: It's actually unrelated to the search term, I get this for anything I search for. I'm using Vivaldi Android with adblocker on, maybe that's the problem.

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