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Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by north_creao »

CuriouslyC wrote: post #2

Delightful design, but from the verbiage on your landing page I wouldn't have guessed you were targeting founders, that sort of thin detail is usually reserved for disconnected decision makers.

Auch, your comment is sharp and I do really appreciate that! According to the think detail fact, we are planning to add a community use case page with some solid functional use cases in different categories, or do you have any suggestions? Would love to hear from you!

And here's my email if you would like to have a chat: north@creao.ai

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by north_creao »

cornholio wrote: post #4

> Each of these could cost you $20-50/month in SaaS subscriptions. Sounds to me that's a bargain, for half an hour in wages I get a battle tested solution built by real humans with real human feedback in the real world, instead of some unmaintainable oneshot AI approximation with zero support. I would easily waste more than that trying to wrestle some prompt into doing what I need, and even when it finally does it's…

Thanks for your value prop advice, that really provides us some deep insights.

> Clearly the value proposition here is not replacing SaaS solutions but creating very customized solutions that simply don't exist as a product

This is true, I was thinking we should also target on SMB professionls who don't have IT department to customize a product solution for them. But they face the barrier that they generally don't have PM knowledge to craft what to build, do you have any thoughts on that?

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by north_creao »

mkl wrote: post #9

Some first impressions: - I think you should drop the confusing black loading screen. It is (or should be) a static page, so just display it. - Under "The Simple Path to Power" the first and third videos don't display for me, and I just get a grey box (I assume there's supposed to be a video there). Chrome on Windows. - I can't make any sense of the paragraph starting "Software shouldn’t wait for clicks". None of the…

Thanks for your comprehensive feedback. I've read through each of your point. We will put more efforts on the marketing words refinement and the overall value prop, and would you test out our product to try out one project build tell us your thoughts? Thanks!

Also here's my email: north@creao.ai, would love to hear more feedbacks from you.

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by CuriouslyC »

north_creao wrote: post #21
CuriouslyC wrote: post #2

Delightful design, but from the verbiage on your landing page I wouldn't have guessed you were targeting founders, that sort of thin detail is usually reserved for disconnected decision makers.

Auch, your comment is sharp and I do really appreciate that! According to the think detail fact, we are planning to add a community use case page with some solid functional use cases in different categories, or do you have any suggestions? Would love to hear from you! And here's my email if you would like to have a chat: north@creao.ai

As a founder, when I land on a page trying to pitch me to build on them, I want to think of whatever it is like plumbing, fairly easy to understand, out in the open. I also want to know what your north star is pretty quickly because even if what you have is attractive, if we're going in different directions it's not going to be a good time. Unlike enterprise folks I don't really have the luxury of shrugging to shareholders and backtracking on bad decisions.

As a stealth competitor, I can tell you the biggest challenge in the space (besides actually dialing in the agents and workflows) is integrating AI codegen with a human product and engineering pipeline in a way that is sustainable (review, PM, etc load increased) and respects organizations processes.

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by enneantic »

cornholio wrote: post #4

> Each of these could cost you $20-50/month in SaaS subscriptions. Sounds to me that's a bargain, for half an hour in wages I get a battle tested solution built by real humans with real human feedback in the real world, instead of some unmaintainable oneshot AI approximation with zero support. I would easily waste more than that trying to wrestle some prompt into doing what I need, and even when it finally does it's…

> I get a battle tested solution

I'm sorry but what do you mean by that? Isn't "battle tested" the opposite of a new product?

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by cornholio »

enneantic wrote: post #25
cornholio wrote: post #4

> Each of these could cost you $20-50/month in SaaS subscriptions. Sounds to me that's a bargain, for half an hour in wages I get a battle tested solution built by real humans with real human feedback in the real world, instead of some unmaintainable oneshot AI approximation with zero support. I would easily waste more than that trying to wrestle some prompt into doing what I need, and even when it finally does it's…

> I get a battle tested solution I'm sorry but what do you mean by that? Isn't "battle tested" the opposite of a new product?

The OP is comparing the SaaS offering with a vibe coded tool, and concludes that it's cheaper to spin your own. And I claim that, relatively speaking, any SaaS offering is much more "battle tested" then an automatically generated tool that only existed for 5 seconds.

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by stuartjohnson12 »

nikolayasdf123 wrote: post #8

> We are a 15-20 person startup, wow, that's a lot of people for such a product. what are you all doing there? seems seriously over-hired.

This is so San Francisco. Looking at LinkedIn I see a devrel manager, a head of finance, a full time hiring manager, a solutions engineer all being held up by a few grad software engineers.

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

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Post by petralithic »

stuartjohnson12 wrote: post #28
nikolayasdf123 wrote: post #8

> We are a 15-20 person startup, wow, that's a lot of people for such a product. what are you all doing there? seems seriously over-hired.

This is so San Francisco. Looking at LinkedIn I see a devrel manager, a head of finance, a full time hiring manager, a solutions engineer all being held up by a few grad software engineers.

A devrel manager that's managing...which developer relationships when it seems like no one is using the product yet? Such an overhired team, agreed.

Re: Show HN: Creao – Vibe coding product for founders

#30

Post by 7thpixel »

Since you are asking for feedback, I ran your site through my algo and here are some of the highlights:

What's Unclear:

The exact target audience, detailed integrations available, and business model specifics remain unclear.

Risky Assumptions:

- Non-coders (beginners) want a no-code solution to build AI-powered applications

- Customers are willing to pay for no-code AI application building (subscription or per app)

- Integrations with third-party APIs/services can scale without major technical hurdles

Do any of these resonate?

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