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Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by tash_2s »

Szpadel wrote: post #17

I'm curious how do you handle case when camera sees multiple people and you detect consent. If I understand correctly how this works consent can come from camera operator and be attributed to recorded person

When multiple people are in view and the system detects consent, the current implementation assumes the person closest to the camera is the one giving it. This is not ideal, so active speaker detection is planned.

Verbal consent is just one example. Depending on the situation, other interfaces may work better, such as having a predefined list of friends who are always consented.

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by cladopa »

sillystuff wrote: post #10

I appreciate your intent, But... This does nothing to alleviate my privacy concerns, as a bystander, about someone rudely pointing a recording camera at me. The only thing that alleviates these concerns about "smart" glasses wearers recording video, is not having "smart" glasses wearers. I.e., not having people rudely walking around with cameras strapped to their faces recording everyone and everything around them. I…

Agreed.

Something like this tool is ridiculous against companies like Google or Meta. Just with their phone apps and OS control with a video like the displayed those companies could know exactly who each person in the video is, what are they doing, who they are with, and record that information forever.

In the video I see three young women, another woman near the zebra crossing. A young woman with a young man, a woman walking with two men on the sides, and another young couple. I know their heights, if they are fat or slim, the type of their hair and so an AI could know that and with that information and a little more like someone of one group having location activated it is enough for a computer to automatically decode the remaining information.

If enough people wear those stupid glasses it means in a city everyone is surveilled on real time with second and centimetre accuracy, included indoors in places like restaurants or malls.

This is too much power that no company or institution should have. If Meta or google have the ability to do that, they will be required by the US government to give that info automatically with some excuse like "national security".

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by tash_2s »

KaiserPro wrote: post #24

Did you look at egoblur? its a lot more effective at face detection than https://github.com/ageitgey/face_recognition granted, you'd have to do your own face matching to do exception.

I'll take another look at EgoBlur to see if it's a good fit, thanks. When I checked it briefly before, I thought it was focused on post-processing (non-realtime) and didn't integrate with matching easily, but it's definitely solid tech.

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by jMyles »

Eisenstein wrote: post #13
jMyles wrote: post #9

There is a strange ingredient in the ether right now - confounding privacy with censorship. If I can see something, and hear it, then blurring it is not "privacy", it's censorship. I fully expected this to be about solutions for empowering the user to ensure that her audio and visual experiences weren't being exfiltrated to a third-party, not that they were being censored before even getting to her.

Can you expound on the difference between privacy and censorship?

Privacy is the right to wear a veil if you choose.

Censorship is telling everyone else they have to avert their eyes as you walk past.

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by Eisenstein »

jMyles wrote: post #26
Eisenstein wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you expound on the difference between privacy and censorship?

Privacy is the right to wear a veil if you choose. Censorship is telling everyone else they have to avert their eyes as you walk past.

In all places and situations?

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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sillystuff wrote: post #10

I appreciate your intent, But... This does nothing to alleviate my privacy concerns, as a bystander, about someone rudely pointing a recording camera at me. The only thing that alleviates these concerns about "smart" glasses wearers recording video, is not having "smart" glasses wearers. I.e., not having people rudely walking around with cameras strapped to their faces recording everyone and everything around them. I…

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Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by Roark66 »

sillystuff wrote: post #10

I appreciate your intent, But... This does nothing to alleviate my privacy concerns, as a bystander, about someone rudely pointing a recording camera at me. The only thing that alleviates these concerns about "smart" glasses wearers recording video, is not having "smart" glasses wearers. I.e., not having people rudely walking around with cameras strapped to their faces recording everyone and everything around them. I…

I feel quote uneasy about stuff being recorded and sent to big corps routinely with cameras strapped to random bystander faces. I'm much more bothered by the fact this gets sent to a central location and processed than mere fact of being recorded without consent.

However, even with this uneasy feeling, one has to recognise a street is a public space and I don't see how one can have reasonable expectation of complete privacy there. There is nothing rude about recording what you can see.

The privacy expectation I have is not that my picture will not be captured, but that such recordings from many unrelated people will not be aggregated to trace my movements .

So in summary, I think everyone has a right to photograph or record whatever they like in a public space, but the action of pooling all such recordings, and running face tracking on them to track individual people (or build a database of movements, whatever) is breaching these people's privacy and there should be laws against it.

Re: Show HN: Real-time privacy protection for smart glasses

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Post by netsharc »

I wonder if I can make a device that recognizes Meta, etc, glasses and aim and shoot laser at the camera lens (and send my users to jail after the device misses the lens and hits the glasshole's eye instead). If there are many glassholes, the laser would just shoot at them alternatingly at eg. 30 shots/seconds.. and make pew-pew noises each time.
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