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Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

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Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#21

it's a bit buried in the FAQ - if you're a non-UK user like I am and just want to see what the output looks like, Keir Starmer's postcode is WC2B6NH so inputting that will give you an already-generated example of the output.

> Keir Starmer's postcode is WC2B6NH

It's actually the postcode of a WeWork in Holborn (which happens to be in Starmer's constituency.)

Keir Starmer's postcode is SW1A 2AA.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#22
post #3

I like the spirit but wouldn't this run afoul of one or two laws? Identity fraud or some such? I'm not in the UK, so I don't have any idea about their laws, but I'd be shocked to find this was above board. Your FAQ claims it's a parody site and claims " The ID number isn't valid and you can't use the card for anything real. " but you've just confirmed here it can indeed be used for real things (discord, reddit). Your…

I agree, the UK Police wouldn't typically let you get away with "it's just a joke". This would constitute a mixture of identity theft, fake ID and misuse of computers.

It's literally just sticking the MPs name into an AI and asking for it to generate a mock ID for them. None of their real data is being used (e.g. their face, their DoB, the address) and the mock IDs wouldn't fool anyone for a second. I'd love if someone who understands the law would weigh in though

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#24

I think this is a fun project, but I'm not sure I'd leave this up for much longer. MPs can be litigious. Especially if this is seen to be enabling things like ID fraud. Also, there are only 650 constituencies. I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI.

You want a different photo each time to avoid easy filter lists.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#25
post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The only way you'd ever get found out is if the affected MP was lying to the public and the identity documents do indeed get retained...

The generated addresses aren't real. It gave a London address for my MP; I know where he lives and it isn't London. Most MPs' home addresses are actually quite easy to find. Mine's was printed below his name on the ballot paper last election – a nice reminder of how we used to have a high-trust society. I doubt this practice will be continued for much longer.

Yeah the address on all the IDs is for parliament. I assume one could find em there

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#26

I think this is a fun project, but I'm not sure I'd leave this up for much longer. MPs can be litigious. Especially if this is seen to be enabling things like ID fraud. Also, there are only 650 constituencies. I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI.

MPs will be immediately trying to hang the civil service for telling them this was a good idea. Don't expect legal action. Do expect buck passing.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#27
It looks like the code was/is going to be published?

From the FAQ:

> How did you do this?

> This site uses React for the frontend and Node.js for the backend. The MP data is fetched from the UK government public API, and the AI-generated images use the latest model from open AI. The images are stored on a Cloudflare R2 bucket. The code is open source, so you can check it out on GitHub. It was done in a hurry.

The git repo linked from that FAQ shows a 404: https://github.com/timje/use-my-mps-id

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#28
post #26

I think this is a fun project, but I'm not sure I'd leave this up for much longer. MPs can be litigious. Especially if this is seen to be enabling things like ID fraud. Also, there are only 650 constituencies. I would pre-populate the list so when entering a new postcode, it doesn't stall waiting for AI.

MPs will be immediately trying to hang the civil service for telling them this was a good idea. Don't expect legal action. Do expect buck passing.

I wish there was a modern day version of "Yes, [Prime] Minister" for this kind of stuff. It's like the episodes could write themselves by the week.

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#29
post #3

I like the spirit but wouldn't this run afoul of one or two laws? Identity fraud or some such? I'm not in the UK, so I don't have any idea about their laws, but I'd be shocked to find this was above board. Your FAQ claims it's a parody site and claims " The ID number isn't valid and you can't use the card for anything real. " but you've just confirmed here it can indeed be used for real things (discord, reddit). Your…

If you can fool discords implementation with a video game character they can't actually be checking very well?

Re: Show HN: Use Their ID – Use your local UK MP’s ID for the Online Safety Act

#30
post #3

I like the spirit but wouldn't this run afoul of one or two laws? Identity fraud or some such? I'm not in the UK, so I don't have any idea about their laws, but I'd be shocked to find this was above board. Your FAQ claims it's a parody site and claims " The ID number isn't valid and you can't use the card for anything real. " but you've just confirmed here it can indeed be used for real things (discord, reddit). Your…

If you can fool discords implementation with a video game character they can't actually be checking very well?

I certainly agree!

However, I doubt that's a strong legal argument.

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