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Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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roxolotl wrote: post #17

Tangential but I’ve been writing a lot of Janet recently using Joy[0], web framework, to build a small web app. Would love to hear what you learned about Janet from doing this work and how you feel about the language afterwards. The one thing I’ve noticed is that it seems like Janet had a burst of interest 2020-2022 but it has since slowed down. Would love to see it become popular again. The main reason I’m using it…

I think Janet is quite...liberal? It's a practical language, but doesn't force a specific paradigm on you. There're "escape hatches" in different levels of the language, and I like that.

Maybe the most "opinionated" things in Janet are the ev stuff and fibers. I think they're done right though, you just need to be careful with the event loop when embedding Janet.

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by nicce »

agentkilo wrote: post #21
roxolotl wrote: post #17

Tangential but I’ve been writing a lot of Janet recently using Joy[0], web framework, to build a small web app. Would love to hear what you learned about Janet from doing this work and how you feel about the language afterwards. The one thing I’ve noticed is that it seems like Janet had a burst of interest 2020-2022 but it has since slowed down. Would love to see it become popular again. The main reason I’m using it…

I think Janet is quite...liberal? It's a practical language, but doesn't force a specific paradigm on you. There're "escape hatches" in different levels of the language, and I like that. Maybe the most "opinionated" things in Janet are the ev stuff and fibers. I think they're done right though, you just need to be careful with the event loop when embedding Janet.

How it compares with Lua?

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by pbohun »

agentkilo wrote: post #15
pbohun wrote: post #7

This is so cool! It's funny because open source devs are making Windows better while MS is actively making it worse. If MS removed all telemetry and AI (and restored win10 functions in context menus), I would probably move back to it. I've recently started playing around with Janet, and it's a great language. I think it's inspired by Clojure and Lua, and somehow manages to be better than both (in my opinion).

> I think it's inspired by Clojure and Lua, and somehow manages to be better than both This is exactly how I feel about Janet too. I don't think I have enough experience on Clojure or Lua to comment on them, but I got attracted to Janet almost immediately. Working on Jwno also confirms my first impression on Janet: It's really a practical language. The tooling has some room for improvement, but the language itself ca…

This is how I feel about Janet too, absolutely practical. So far it's been a breeze to write the little experiments I've done so far.

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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roxolotl wrote: post #17

Tangential but I’ve been writing a lot of Janet recently using Joy[0], web framework, to build a small web app. Would love to hear what you learned about Janet from doing this work and how you feel about the language afterwards. The one thing I’ve noticed is that it seems like Janet had a burst of interest 2020-2022 but it has since slowed down. Would love to see it become popular again. The main reason I’m using it…

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Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by 77pt77 »

nicce wrote: post #22
agentkilo wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Janet is quite...liberal? It's a practical language, but doesn't force a specific paradigm on you. There're "escape hatches" in different levels of the language, and I like that. Maybe the most "opinionated" things in Janet are the ev stuff and fibers. I think they're done right though, you just need to be careful with the event loop when embedding Janet.

How it compares with Lua?

This one actually has real arrays (mutable and immutable)

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by insin »

ang_cire wrote: post #20

Custom windows shells (I know this is just a window manager, but still) in the year of our lord 2025? This takes me back to the days of installing bb4win and litestep in XP. I'm a kid again!

TIL bbLean [1] still works in Windows 11! Currently digging through my archives for my old BB4Win styles repository

[1] https://bb4win.sourceforge.net/bblean/

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by Rasthor »

aus10d wrote: post #23

Janet looks really neat. And this project seems really cool. Windows DESPERATELY needs a more powerful built-in manager. It's ridiculous to use the mouse all the time.

One of the later PowerToys updates makes the first few steps in the right direction with "fancy zones". It's not strictly native windows, but still developed by Microsoft and adds keyboard shortcuts for all its utilities

Re: Show HN: A Tiling Window Manager for Windows, Written in Janet

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Post by agentkilo »

MisterKent wrote: post #28

How does it compare to komorebi? I've been using it for about 5 months with great success. I'm a Hyprland user when I'm on my personal machine, but for windows Komorebi has let me keep my muscle memory and workflow largely intact.

I think these are the most obvious differences between the two:

* By default, Komorebi uses dynamic tiling, while Jwno uses manual tiling.

* Komorebi has workspaces, Jwno works with Windows native virtual desktops instead.

* Komorebi uses IPC and native system command line to send commands, while Jwno usually operates all by itself.

There are definitely other details that are important to you, but these are the things that immediately came to my mind. I don't run Hyprland so can't really comment on that.

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