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Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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Is there a name for this new-age method of notes/webpage/data productivity genre? They all seem to have "write with /" to insert "block" content.

I am trying wrap my head around what they are. The seem to be "docs" on the web. Then they also have this "inline page" feature which is a fancy include. Then have a table insert with a relation feature. Then they have a dynamic view layout engine on a table.

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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Is there a name for this new-age method of notes/webpage/data productivity genre? They all seem to have "write with /" to insert "block" content. I am trying wrap my head around what they are. The seem to be "docs" on the web. Then they also have this "inline page" feature which is a fancy include. Then have a table insert with a relation feature. Then they have a dynamic view layout engine on a table.

Block-based editors maybe?

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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post #23

Is there a name for this new-age method of notes/webpage/data productivity genre? They all seem to have "write with /" to insert "block" content. I am trying wrap my head around what they are. The seem to be "docs" on the web. Then they also have this "inline page" feature which is a fancy include. Then have a table insert with a relation feature. Then they have a dynamic view layout engine on a table.

Block-based editors maybe?

Could be. That seems to bring up many search results.

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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post #22

These products are neat, but what about the data? Notion is a tragedy when it comes to export or migration. I didn’t see any bragging about the exportability of content from this one, but that’s the main thing I look for now.

Hi, thanks for bringing this up! We don’t have export or migration features in place yet, but we are planning to add them. Which export formats would be most useful to you? And when you mention migration, are you thinking about moving data from similar tools into Colanode or vice-versa? If so, which specific tools would you like to be able to migrate to/from?

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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Is there a name for this new-age method of notes/webpage/data productivity genre? They all seem to have "write with /" to insert "block" content. I am trying wrap my head around what they are. The seem to be "docs" on the web. Then they also have this "inline page" feature which is a fancy include. Then have a table insert with a relation feature. Then they have a dynamic view layout engine on a table.

The term I'm familiar with is "outliners", as is used by Logseq: https://docs.logseq.com/#/page/start%20here

Unfortunately, this is quite difficult to search for, but it might give you some leads.

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Curious which features? I'm starting a local-first project and would love to make a PWA, but I just don't think the platform is ready yet.

Mainly using SQLite and having access to native file system for reading and writing files. We wanted to provide a full offline functionality. While it's possible to achieve that in browser as well it seemed quite complicated for now (we might consider it in the future).

It’s actually fairly straightforward using the OPFS API; I used it to build an upload queue a while ago, so the user can drag arbitrary files on the browser, they get copied into the OPFS as regular files, and then I can upload them at my own leisure, even after browser restarts. The SQLite WASM build even has support for it AFAIR.

Can recommend, it’s a fun challenge :)

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

#29

Would it be possible to allow us to set our own custom fonts and color scheme (without having to fork it)?

That's an interesting idea. Didn't plan it, but we could implement some kind of custom theme functionality.

Re: Show HN: Colanode, open-source and local-first Slack and Notion alternative

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post #22

These products are neat, but what about the data? Notion is a tragedy when it comes to export or migration. I didn’t see any bragging about the exportability of content from this one, but that’s the main thing I look for now.

Hi, thanks for bringing this up! We don’t have export or migration features in place yet, but we are planning to add them. Which export formats would be most useful to you? And when you mention migration, are you thinking about moving data from similar tools into Colanode or vice-versa? If so, which specific tools would you like to be able to migrate to/from?

Different person but my prios for export:

1. Versioned export/backup which will be guaranteed to work with current Colanode version

2. ..., well-documented

3. ..., with migrations so it's always future-compatible

4. ..., human-readable

I think integrations with any specific other tools should be ezpz if the fundaments are solid!

For import/insert, I guess some cli API with similar properties would be a nice fit.

(Coincidentally I think the above is also what would facilitate LLMs to do a decent job for anyone trying that)

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