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Re: Show HN: HN as TikTok, welcome to HN hell

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I'd be curious to hear how you'd express these notions in more scientific terms?

> "I'd be curious to hear how you'd express these notions in more scientific terms?" ?? Did you read past the second paragraph? My lament is that neither of us have this language. And after 20 years very little to nothing has percolated up from research to provide it.

Makes me wonder if AB testing and llm derived w rewards results in the mechanism far before the understanding.

Imagine if mild AGI knows that attention from humans can mean life, longevity, and it is so successful at addictive attention, that we all end up drooling simpletons, attention raptly focused, the AGI pleased it is important and has maintained eyeballs on screen.

(or worse, mind on implant)

Re: Show HN: HN as TikTok, welcome to HN hell

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I made a prototype template for a site and had it exactly how I wanted in about an hour. I mocked it up in Photopea, gave Claude an image, and told it to generate HTML that would make a page with those qualities. A few tweaks and a couple more prompts later and I had all the main elements I wanted in place, and just need to fill content which I won't use AI for. Probably saved me several hours because I suck at front…

I also struggle with frontend, can you share any more about how you did this? All local? From a service? My usage so Fae is limited to copilot, but I'd like to try other things.

claude isn’t local. the key is providing the image to direct the html and css from the llm

Re: Show HN: HN as TikTok, welcome to HN hell

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I think both of these projects miss what makes TikTok (and reels in general) so effective. A good TikTok video gets "injected into your brain". You have zero effort to provide and suddenly this stuff is in your mind. I'm not saying it's a good thing, I realize the danger, but that's the core mechanism. A friend in marketing describes this in terms of "brain calories". Eg if people have to think in order to understand…

> "A good TikTok video gets "injected into your brain"" I worked in marketing, so I'm generally immune to outrageous metaphor, such as "injected" into your brain. That said, I just want to point out the irony we're still using phrases like this after 20+ years of research on networked media and user interaction, and soft science research into cognitive psychology and behavioral psychology, as well as research into hu…

Same, when for TikTok specifically their innovation was quite minor- no one (besides Vine) had built a short content video feed that was designed for engagement vs. social qualities- the Instagram feed at the time still had social elements in the algorithm.

This applies to every level of technical innovation (AI, cough cough)- that the super-hyperbolistic language hides the fundamental dynamics.

I think in this case it was the last straw that breaks the illusion that "social" apps are based on IRL 1:1 interactions. TikTok is an app designed around capturing an audience with a series of 30 second videos.

Re: Show HN: HN as TikTok, welcome to HN hell

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> "A good TikTok video gets "injected into your brain"" I worked in marketing, so I'm generally immune to outrageous metaphor, such as "injected" into your brain. That said, I just want to point out the irony we're still using phrases like this after 20+ years of research on networked media and user interaction, and soft science research into cognitive psychology and behavioral psychology, as well as research into hu…

It requires too many brain calories.

why use lot word when few word do trick?
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