Make Python look like Ruby
It is and it's .dopy
Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
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Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#22Anyone who can't see past Python's indentation-based syntax is a person who doesn't understand Python. (Both literally and figuratively!) When "significant whitespace" is at the top of someone's complaints about Python, I'm immediately done hearing about their superficial criticism of the language.
Personally I started making a language that uses it
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#23> I built this to learn more about python/interpreter language syntax in general, but not interested in pursuing this further.
Good job trying something new out! There is always room for experimentation, if any reason to try to learn something new.
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#24Make Python look like Ruby
Too late for those trains, but imagine a world where GIMP would have copied the UI of Photoshop and Python the syntax of Ruby. A happy world.
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#25> I built this to learn more about python/interpreter language syntax in general, but not interested in pursuing this further. Good job trying something new out! There is always room for experimentation, if any reason to try to learn something new.
Yeah I think it’s a cool idea but also a little funny to see that the project is archived after clicking on it for the first time haha
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#26Anyone who can't see past Python's indentation-based syntax is a person who doesn't understand Python. (Both literally and figuratively!) When "significant whitespace" is at the top of someone's complaints about Python, I'm immediately done hearing about their superficial criticism of the language.
Literate programming tools that weave/tangle code and documentation don't play well with significant whitespace. Not a problem for me, but I think it's on a valid line of complaints.
Technically comments are considered blank lines, so indentation can be arbitrary. This is against PEP8/linters, but it's not a formatting error.
Triple quoted docstrings just require that the initial marker (""" or ''') is indented properly (since they are not considered blank lines). All contained text, and the closing marker, can be at any indentation level. This is the cleanest way to include a page of free form documentation, mid anywhere.
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#27Please make the corner/base cases more prominent. For instance, the question obviously arises: can we have this:
def function(x) do
end
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
When I hear someone complain about the whitespace thing, it sends a message to me that they do not format their code well and just go willy-nilly on their indentation. If you're properly indenting code, then it always works as intended . Proper indentation doesn't come from a desire to make the code work, it comes from a desire to make it readable. It just happens that readable means correct in Python's case. It lite…
I just translated all my build scripts written in Python to straight C due to indentation issues. Not because I don't format my code properly, but because any time I refactored my code, I ended up with dozens of subtle indentation related bugs that took hours to find and fix. If your language requires an IDE, then you have become Java.
What text editor do you use?
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#29Anyone who can't see past Python's indentation-based syntax is a person who doesn't understand Python. (Both literally and figuratively!) When "significant whitespace" is at the top of someone's complaints about Python, I'm immediately done hearing about their superficial criticism of the language.
Literate programming tools that weave/tangle code and documentation don't play well with significant whitespace. Not a problem for me, but I think it's on a valid line of complaints.
I very strongly disagree. The most successful implementation of literate programming is the Jupyter Notebook, formerly called iPython Notebook. Even when you write it as raw markdown, there's no issue mixing documentation with triple-backtick code blocks.
Maybe you're thinking of mixing Python with HTML? Python based HTML templating can be ugly, and the significant indentation of Python is a very poor mix for replacing Javascript in whitespace-agnostic HTML.
Re: Show HN: Python with do..end in place of strict indentation
#30Anyone who can't see past Python's indentation-based syntax is a person who doesn't understand Python. (Both literally and figuratively!) When "significant whitespace" is at the top of someone's complaints about Python, I'm immediately done hearing about their superficial criticism of the language.
When I hear someone complain about the whitespace thing, it sends a message to me that they do not format their code well and just go willy-nilly on their indentation. If you're properly indenting code, then it always works as intended . Proper indentation doesn't come from a desire to make the code work, it comes from a desire to make it readable. It just happens that readable means correct in Python's case. It lite…
> When I hear someone complain about the whitespace thing, it sends a message to me that they do not format their code well and just go willy-nilly on their indentation.
That's quite the assumption.