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Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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post #14

Sorry, forgot to mention. The planner is a mess on mobile I totally forgot to make it mobile friendly as I didn't think anyone would want to plan their trip on a phone.

Perhaps the number of mobile users would be lower than desktop, but I’ve had to reroute a planned trip from my phone a few times now due to unforeseen construction and road obstructions.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#23
post #14

Sorry, forgot to mention. The planner is a mess on mobile I totally forgot to make it mobile friendly as I didn't think anyone would want to plan their trip on a phone.

Interesting assumption. My mind goes to to a) Most people are mobile first and b) In this category of app, i imagine people want the route with them on their phone as they bike (as they're probably unfamiliar with the route, hence the need to plan it)

Cool idea, i'd love to try it but honestly i'd love it on my phone for the aforementioned reasons!

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Edit: Some follow up remarks (From Chrome on a Mac)

1. I found it a bit confusing when creating a route. I assumed it would let me do address completion. The UI seems to just be naming my route instead, i think if you're going to borrow visually from Google maps you should follow their patterns.

2. I was able to add my first point (my home), but adding a second point never worked.

3. The click mechanic is a bit odd. I expect clicking elsewhere when the menu is open (add point/close) that the menu would go away - rather than re-appear in my new click location.

4. The map centred me over Europe, i'm in Canada however. Some GeoIP lookup here could give a better experience.

5. Re:point 2, this seems to work when i selected random locations in Europe. I assume this is a data issue? So the real issue here (apart from the routing not working) is there's no feedback on the UI when the routing fails.

6. Refreshing my screen loses my route. Any chance you could save it to local storage or something? Would be amazing if i could create this route on my desktop and then send a link to my phone (once mobile is supported?)

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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post #20

Works very well, it exactly replicated my everyday route to work.

So for me, it doesn't add a second point. Is that because it can't find a route or is it just not working? Boulder, Colorado for reference.

Same in Phoenix.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#25
post #14

Sorry, forgot to mention. The planner is a mess on mobile I totally forgot to make it mobile friendly as I didn't think anyone would want to plan their trip on a phone.

I share your perspective. I use Komoot extensively and I use it only on the phone for recording the ride, have it route me through the trip I planned on the web interface, and also to check where some paths I find during the ride lead to. If I then decide to use that unknown path, I either add a new waypoint or just ignore it until I'm on the planned track again (just seeing the trails is then good enough).

There are simply some things where a phone screen is just too small to use efficiently, and the fingers sometimes aren't just a good, precise enough input device.

Though I am a bit irritated by the brightness of the route on your site, it lacks contrast with respect to the surrounding map.

BTW, how is that routing done? Like which is the used routing engine and is it done server-side or in the browser?

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It does seem to have a bug, where, when deleting a waypoint, the mouse still is in "create waypoint mode", and any mouse-down on the map, including for panning, results in adding a waypoint.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#26
Looks interesting! Unfortunately doesn't seem to let me add more than one point on my route. In the console I see

`Error fetching route from Graphhopper Error: Network response was not ok`

I tried a couple times and got this in the U.S. In Europe I picked a couple random points and it worked fine.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#27
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep. This is the a crucial cycling feature that's missing. Ideally, I'd also like to highlight roads with diverters, circles, chicanes, bumps, tables, etc.

In OpenStreetMap, which is the data source used by most of these navigation apps, the relevant key is traffic_calming . I have not found any navigation app that preferentially chooses streets with traffic_calming features, such as speed humps. I recently suggested that in OSMAnd and got no traction [0]. [0] https://github.com/osmandapp/OsmAnd/issues/21320

Have you tried https://brouter.de/ ? If that feature is neither supported here, it worth trying to request it.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

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post #23
post #14

Sorry, forgot to mention. The planner is a mess on mobile I totally forgot to make it mobile friendly as I didn't think anyone would want to plan their trip on a phone.

Interesting assumption. My mind goes to to a) Most people are mobile first and b) In this category of app, i imagine people want the route with them on their phone as they bike (as they're probably unfamiliar with the route, hence the need to plan it) Cool idea, i'd love to try it but honestly i'd love it on my phone for the aforementioned reasons! --- Edit: Some follow up remarks (From Chrome on a Mac) 1. I found it…

I think the purpose is to export the route to GPX, so that you can use it on your phone when you're cycling.

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#29
Holy shit it's awesome!

I've been bikepaking for two years now and I wish I had this tool

I've used komoot in the past but I was never satisfied with the paths it suggested and had to rely on local guides

I've checked with some of the past trips I id and it guesses correctly all of the best paths

Re: Show HN: Bike route planner that follows almost only official bike trails

#30
post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Interesting assumption. My mind goes to to a) Most people are mobile first and b) In this category of app, i imagine people want the route with them on their phone as they bike (as they're probably unfamiliar with the route, hence the need to plan it) Cool idea, i'd love to try it but honestly i'd love it on my phone for the aforementioned reasons! --- Edit: Some follow up remarks (From Chrome on a Mac) 1. I found it…

I think the purpose is to export the route to GPX, so that you can use it on your phone when you're cycling.

Yeah, that's fair. I just don't have a habit of doing that so for me the GPX thing while good is a change in behaviour that limits me from adopting this app / exploring new trails. Also on further thought, i could see myself wanting to change the route mid-journey and that would be another issue with only having the GPX file.
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