This reminds me of Perl's http://www.blosxom.com and also https://tiddlywiki.com . Self-contained sites with minimal requirements.
And the light-weight https://feather.wiki/ (which is not too different from tiddlywiki)
Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
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Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Unlike web scraping where spaghetti logic is required to follow abstracted JS links, archival of nostr events can be as simple as running a relay and mirroring blog content.[1][2] nostr does a lot of what NNTP did but with additional flexibility. [1] https://logperiodic.com/rbsr.html#nostr [2] https://github.com/hoytech/strfry/blob/master/docs/negentrop...
For that you will need to connect to all relays in existence, right?
Not necessarily, the gossip/outbox model (NIP-65) tells clients which relays they should check:
https://mikedilger.com/gossip-model/
It is of course possible to combine this approach with undifferentiated access to well known relays, to fetch content from not followed people.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#23The fact the "I hate NPM" section is so simple makes me wonder why npm was involved at all. I also deeply hate NPM. (Normalizing NPM is a hazard to society) So maybe I'm biased...
I used Svelte for convenience, so you need npm (or equivalent), but only if you want to develop/extend the project.
If you just want to use it, the html template is sufficient.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#24I regularly find myself on the internet archive hoping to find a working copy of a page created ten-plus years ago. Page rot, SEO spam, walled gardens, and AI generated nonsense are all converging to suck the value out of the WWW. Projects like this give me a little hope that blogging can make a comeback. NIP-13 [1] also has the ability to use POW to limit bot activity. Thanks for sharing! [1] https://github.com/nost…
> Projects like this give me a little hope that blogging can make a comeback. From nostr site: "If all the relays that you have used in the past go offline, all your posts will be unretrievable." https://nostr.com/relays Nostr doesn't solve the archival problem
You should take it upon yourself to save your data, if it is really important to you, so that if all your relays fail, you can simply rebroadcast all your events to a new one and you will be fine.
It's a problem solved in a collaborative and decentralized way.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#25Simple and minimalist => Requires npm ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Fair objection, but if you don't need to modify the structure/behavior, you can just use the html template file I built for you :)
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#26The fact the "I hate NPM" section is so simple makes me wonder why npm was involved at all. I also deeply hate NPM. (Normalizing NPM is a hazard to society) So maybe I'm biased...
I used Svelte for convenience, so you need npm (or equivalent), but only if you want to develop/extend the project. If you just want to use it, the html template is sufficient.
Honestly it's awesome you did, thanks! Also, please stop using NPM in general.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#27Nostr would be so cool if it wasn't associated with bitcoin. I know the protocol has nothing to do with crypto currencies whatsoever, but the people who use it are predominantly in that world. This is a cool project though, so nice job! I'm not sure if a blog is the best use case (regular static blogs are faster and easier), but maybe it would make more sense for other concepts.
Statics blogs are cool but you have to manage them uploading the content every time. The interesting aspect of this solution is that you can use whatever client that supports long format (https://habla.news, https://yakihonne.com, https://highlighter.com, etc) to write your post, and your personal blog is automatically updated. No fuss.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Projects like this give me a little hope that blogging can make a comeback. From nostr site: "If all the relays that you have used in the past go offline, all your posts will be unretrievable." https://nostr.com/relays Nostr doesn't solve the archival problem
You should take it upon yourself to save your data, if it is really important to you, so that if all your relays fail, you can simply rebroadcast all your events to a new one and you will be fine. It's a problem solved in a collaborative and decentralized way.
> You should take it upon yourself
> It's a problem solved
If I have to take it upon myself, then it's not solved.
Re: Show HN: Oracolo – A minimalist Nostr blog in a single HTML file
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
What others do you know of, or is there a resource to find out more?
Off the top of my head: Hypercore (DAT), GUN, Secure Scuttlebutt, IPFS, PPPP, Bamboo, BlueSky, Spritely Goblins... If this is your jam, check out DWeb camp, put on by the Internet Archive, there will be a lot of us decentralized web technologist there.
Great suggestions. I'd also add that learning how the DHT works is a great jumping off point.