very informative,thanks!
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle. How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?
> How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ? Good question. The first step is to analyze each technology individually, rather than usual analogies :)
Exactly! And study how it's actually is, without resorting to works of fiction made specificallly to entertain and be dramatic
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#23I really hope that communities could build their own AI. For example, GPT-4-turbo doesn't get keyboard navigation for blind people right in just about any conversation. Why Microsoft made a chat bot for this very purpose of serving people with disabilities, I don't know. It's not even 100% accessible, the web app anyway. So, if we could train our own AI's, and multi-modal models, on how to help us, how to describe things, or even the kinds of media we each like, that'd be amazing!
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#24I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…
> AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society You know, you say this, but we had massive changes after personal computers and the Internet and the iPhone became a thing, and no studies to my knowledge were produced before any of these things were introduced. All of the predicted effects were only positive, because only good actors were involved…
The obvious difference, though, is that you knowingly use all of these tools; you get to choose whether and how you use them. AI, like the weapons you point out, can invade your life without you knowing it even exists.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
> AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society You know, you say this, but we had massive changes after personal computers and the Internet and the iPhone became a thing, and no studies to my knowledge were produced before any of these things were introduced. All of the predicted effects were only positive, because only good actors were involved…
The obvious difference, though, is that you knowingly use all of these tools; you get to choose whether and how you use them. AI, like the weapons you point out, can invade your life without you knowing it even exists.
It's actually the other way around with AI. If you want to do web-search, you got to disclose your keywords to a search engine. If you want to post on social networks, you are in plain sight. If you use a mobile phone, you broadcast your location.
But if you use your local models, it's more like running a linux box, it is private, customizable and unfiltered. LLMs will reverse the centralization trend we have seen with search and social. They can create a "safe space", "a room of one's own" where we can be creative and unrestricted.
LLMs promise the privacy internet never gave us, anyone, remember how we felt private online 20 years ago? You can't download a Google or FB but you can download a Mistral and even run it on a normal laptop.
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle. How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?
Not cp but I would say it's the scale and timeframes
I came to post the same. Computers and the Internet evolved over decades before what we would recognize as modern computers. Their first use cases were mathematical, scientific, and business oriented (word processing, financial models, etc.).
It took decades for mass adoption and wider use cases to evolve. Sure, there were many cracks that had to fixed along the way (malware, botnets, privacy, piracy, distribution channel for illicit materials, environmental cost, etc.), but none of those things manifest in a timeline remotely close to what we see with gen AI seemingly reaching widespread adoption in a short ~24 mo. time period. The advancement has been so fast, that the real-world guardrails haven't had any time to catch up before the next advancement completely changes the playing field. Prime example is that Will Smith spaghetti video to Sora within months.
Now we have AI denying care[0] to patients and generating deepfake porn[1] of celebrities, coworkers, and even minors. What are the lines we should draw as a society? It moves so fast that even knowing what the right discussion context is can be a challenge because the endpoints have shifted by the time we even understand the problem enough to have a constructive conversation.
The socioeconomic impacts in some industries where AI can replaces workers will be tremendously negative for real-world, flesh-and-blood human beings who may not be ready or in a position to adapt to those changes. There is some postulation that the Arab Spring arose out of the effects of climate change on crop failures[3]. How will such a sudden and massive shift in employment and household income combined with other macroeconomic factors like inflation and housing costs affect the stability of society and social unrest?
Don't get me wrong: this is not an argument against AI because certainly, if AI can do those jobs better, faster, and more efficiently, then why not? But rather as a community and society, we also need to understand the wider consequences of wiping out employment of 90% of the people in a given field of industry and what that looks like for our friends, families, neighbors.
[0] https://arstechnica.com/health/2023/11/ai-with-90-error-rate...
[1] https://www.euronews.com/next/2024/03/04/deepfake-porn-video...
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another kind of cautionary tale could be that someone could, but doesn't advance something, because of moral reasons, and then someone else goes ahead and does it anyways. One of such tales is Ányos Jedlik, who might have had a lead in the creation of the electric motor and the dynamo, but we'll never truly know, as he was not the kind of person to go ahead and patent and build a business. Nevertheless, both were inv…
> What you can decide is what part you want of it. Or, you can build a revolution to take it down...
Or find a middle way. Call it the Butlerian Compromise.
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#28I think a "roadmap" should be also provided on how to learn this topic in a guided way. Also, some captions would be useful: what does it mean "model development"? Why "vector databases" ? What is "LLM Automation" ? What should I click first if I am a complete newbie ?
I am not the Lazy programmer nor the owner of this website, but titular Lazy Programmer has developed several roadmaps of the courses they offer for those who wish to learn AI/ML. You don't necessarily have to take their courses, but you can glean the topics of the courses from their titles and get a good idea of what you need to know.
The courses:
https://lazyprogrammer.me/deep-learning-courses/
The order in which to take the courses:
https://deeplearningcourses.com/course_order
A video summary:
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#29Is there something like this that is more broad than LLMs?
There’s thousands of AI directories out there, from huggingface itself to the ones specialized in SaaSes
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#30I'm currrently re-reading Jurassic Park, and I can't help but wonder whether we are committing the same mistakes with AI as the scientists in the book... AI seems to be the ultimate example of "shoot first, ask questions later". We have no idea how AI will effect society, the marginal benefits to people are near-zero (measred in terms of the difference before any adoption to widespread adoption, not incremental inter…
You could say the same thing about computers, but you are comfortably sitting in front of one of them. Previously you were probably sitting in a public transportation vehicle. How do you personally distinguish between "this is an apocalyptic mistake" and "this is a step in the right direction" ?
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