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Seems like there's a bit of confusion about what the add-on does exactly. It doesn't automatically redirect all YouTube pages you open. This however gives you the choice to open the pages you want in an alternative frontend. My use case is basically I browse the YT homepage and Shift+click the videos I want to watch. Or if someone shares a link to a video, I access that page and Alt+J to redirect to the alternative f…

Thanks for explaining, but what is an alternative frontend in this case?

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While we're on the subject of youtube annoyances: are there any extensions that disable "ambient mode?"

This infuriating feature provides nothing useful and absolutely murders Apple Silicon GPUs, draining the battery very, very quickly.

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Are nitter instances still working? I was under the impression that project died when Elon curtailed api access.

Yep, nitter still works.

Although not out of the box right now, it requires running some external scripts to grab guest accounts and running a build off a branch or fork. See https://github.com/zedeus/nitter/issues/983

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I've been using Privacy Redirect and some of the other generalist redirector extension with quite some success. Privacy redirect also redirects twitter to nitter, reddit to libreddit or old.reddit, Google Maps to openstreetmap and other stuff. Redirects can be enabled/disabled to ones taste. That's quite neat. Combined with my private invidious instance so I can subscribe to channels without this data leaving compute…

Are nitter instances still working? I was under the impression that project died when Elon curtailed api access.

They keep working with a workaround, by using guest tokens handed out to the Android application. So, until they change the functioning of the app, it will keep working.

Re: Show HN: Firefox add-on to open YouTube videos in alternative front ends

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Seems like there's a bit of confusion about what the add-on does exactly. It doesn't automatically redirect all YouTube pages you open. This however gives you the choice to open the pages you want in an alternative frontend. My use case is basically I browse the YT homepage and Shift+click the videos I want to watch. Or if someone shares a link to a video, I access that page and Alt+J to redirect to the alternative f…

Thanks for explaining, but what is an alternative frontend in this case?

I've also just updated the README to make it more obvious what the extension does.

The default alternative frontend I have configured is https://piped.video , but you can use any different instance / service if it supports the same YouTube url scheme ({domain}/watch?v=...).

This is configurable in the add-on's options page, you can also access it by clicking on the add-on's icon

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Thanks for explaining, but what is an alternative frontend in this case?

I've also just updated the README to make it more obvious what the extension does. The default alternative frontend I have configured is https://piped.video , but you can use any different instance / service if it supports the same YouTube url scheme ({domain}/watch?v=...). This is configurable in the add-on's options page, you can also access it by clicking on the add-on's icon

Thanks, I've looked at the docs of newpipe and invidious and neither make it straight forward to understand how they work. Both focus on "this is more private than watching on youtube"

It sounds like there is some kind of instance/server which my client/with a cleaner frontend will talk to.

But how does that work and why can youtube not detect it and block it?

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I've also just updated the README to make it more obvious what the extension does. The default alternative frontend I have configured is https://piped.video , but you can use any different instance / service if it supports the same YouTube url scheme ({domain}/watch?v=...). This is configurable in the add-on's options page, you can also access it by clicking on the add-on's icon

Thanks, I've looked at the docs of newpipe and invidious and neither make it straight forward to understand how they work. Both focus on "this is more private than watching on youtube" It sounds like there is some kind of instance/server which my client/with a cleaner frontend will talk to. But how does that work and why can youtube not detect it and block it?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invidious

This describes how it works at least tiny bit:

>Invidious does not use the official YouTube API, but scrapes the website for video and metadata such as likes and views.[10]

Re: Show HN: Firefox add-on to open YouTube videos in alternative front ends

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I've also just updated the README to make it more obvious what the extension does. The default alternative frontend I have configured is https://piped.video , but you can use any different instance / service if it supports the same YouTube url scheme ({domain}/watch?v=...). This is configurable in the add-on's options page, you can also access it by clicking on the add-on's icon

Thanks, I've looked at the docs of newpipe and invidious and neither make it straight forward to understand how they work. Both focus on "this is more private than watching on youtube" It sounds like there is some kind of instance/server which my client/with a cleaner frontend will talk to. But how does that work and why can youtube not detect it and block it?

I wasn't sure myself either, so I looked it up.

- Piped [1] uses NewPipeExtractor [2] (which is also used by NewPipe) to parse YouTube responses. I assume this is somewhat similar to what yt-dlp [3] does ?

- Invidious states in their FAQ [4]: "By default, the video stream is fetched directly from Google's servers (googlevideo.com)".

[1]: https://github.com/TeamPiped/Piped

[2]: https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipeExtractor

[3]: https://github.com/yt-dlp/yt-dlp

[4]: https://docs.invidious.io/faq/#q-what-data-is-shared-with-yo...

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