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Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by quickthrower2 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 9:19 AM UTC

cloverr20 wrote: post #12

Developers waiting on the dev/sandbox environment for their turn, is such a frequent issue within our team specially when the sprint is about to end. This solution really looks cool and will be trying this out tomorrow.I am sure our cloud team will be very much interested in this.

As an aside that is a downside of sprints. It creates pressure points like this. Another is QA testing all needing to be done on the final day.

Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by quickthrower2 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 9:22 AM UTC

We don’t have this problem simply because we can run it all on one machine (using Microsoft proprietary tools that pretty much do what you are doing but only for a subset of Azure). I will keep your tool in mind for the inevitable future when things get more complex than that.

Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by lma21 » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 11:22 AM UTC

lucasfcosta wrote: post #5

sberens wrote: post #4

Did you generate the diagrams in the README.md with some tool?

Yes, we used Excalidraw for creating the diagrams in the README and Stable Diffusion to generate the "stickers".

The stickers look awesome mate! How did you create them with Stable Diffusion?

Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by lucasfcosta » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 5:21 PM UTC

dlahoda wrote: post #14

i did terraform, layers, terragrunt. they are option and composable. not clear what layers are layerform are for? from other side used nix codespaces/shells/rebuilds terranix. so how you in comparison to these?

These are just a simpler abstraction, even though similar to the others.

They enable a bunch of other use cases we'll implement on top. We believe layers (in the way we envisioned them) to be the ideal abstraction.

Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by lucasfcosta » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 5:23 PM UTC

lma21 wrote: post #23

lucasfcosta wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, we used Excalidraw for creating the diagrams in the README and Stable Diffusion to generate the "stickers".

The stickers look awesome mate! How did you create them with Stable Diffusion?

Thank you! I used the key words "Doodle of X. Black and white using ink." Sometimes removing the "ink" part helps. And make sure X is not too detailed.

Re: Show HN: Layerform – Open-source development environments using Terraform files

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Post by anirudhrx » Wed, Aug 16, 2023, 10:52 PM UTC

cloverr20 wrote: post #12

Developers waiting on the dev/sandbox environment for their turn, is such a frequent issue within our team specially when the sprint is about to end. This solution really looks cool and will be trying this out tomorrow.I am sure our cloud team will be very much interested in this.

This is an interesting issue that I've also seen across many companies - often even leading to low usage of these slow-to-bring-up environments. At relatively smaller scale, I can see physical infrastructure-based isolation being effective to solve it - with the stack coming up relatively quickly, but at larger scale (even 30+ microservices), I think an approach that uses logical / request tenancy is also worth considering - similar to https://www.uber.com/blog/simplifying-developer-testing-thro....