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Re: Show HN: This Girl Next Door Does Not Exist (NSFW)

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Post by rimunroe »

noduerme wrote: post #16
andrewstuart wrote: post #11

It's a real pity. People/mostly women do actually make a living from images like this. They do it safely (presumably) from home. Looks AI is going to even put the webcam girls out of business.

My neighbors are cam girls. They spend all day in their backyard diddling themselves. On weekends they have mud wrestling in their kiddie pool, and occasionally rent a bouncy castle. Honestly, they're young and I think it's great they make money by partying, but it wouldn't be terrible if they had to find a new career path before they turn 30. And it wouldn't be a great loss to society if selling your body suddenly s…

> Because people pay for cam girls to have a sense of power.

I dated someone who did cam work. From what I remember there were people who just wanted to feel like they were in control, but most of her clients were mostly after the feeling of intimacy of doing something with another person and talking to them. You hear similar stories of from other sex workers.

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Post by Hankenstein2 »

andrewstuart wrote: post #11

It's a real pity. People/mostly women do actually make a living from images like this. They do it safely (presumably) from home. Looks AI is going to even put the webcam girls out of business.

Hopefully I can phrase this in a non confrontational way but isn't that what "everyone" wants? We keep hearing about porn being exploitative and driving some human trafficking, this seems like a possible solution that makes "everyone" happy? Of course there are issues with starter images and what others have pointed out in that lots of porn has a social interaction draw.

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Post by voussoir »

carrolldunham wrote: post #4

I keep seeing AI people shoot themselves in the foot with the risible "animations" that are a static pic with the mouth morphing like a deliberately bad flash cartoon would do. After marvelling at still images that are indistinguishable from reality, how could seeing a 2000s morph of one called a moving image not be pure bathos? Why don't you stop? Know your limits!

I don't see it as shooting oneself in the foot, I see it as documenting the state of present technology for the benefit of the future. In ten years, we'll be glad that people published not only the strengths but also the weaknesses of their work. The bathos is temporary.

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Post by Vanit »

carrolldunham wrote: post #4

I keep seeing AI people shoot themselves in the foot with the risible "animations" that are a static pic with the mouth morphing like a deliberately bad flash cartoon would do. After marvelling at still images that are indistinguishable from reality, how could seeing a 2000s morph of one called a moving image not be pure bathos? Why don't you stop? Know your limits!

Normally I'd agree with you, but the porn industry isn't known for high fidelity with fantasy fulfillment.

Re: Show HN: This Girl Next Door Does Not Exist (NSFW)

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Post by noduerme »

rimunroe wrote: post #21
noduerme wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My neighbors are cam girls. They spend all day in their backyard diddling themselves. On weekends they have mud wrestling in their kiddie pool, and occasionally rent a bouncy castle. Honestly, they're young and I think it's great they make money by partying, but it wouldn't be terrible if they had to find a new career path before they turn 30. And it wouldn't be a great loss to society if selling your body suddenly s…

> Because people pay for cam girls to have a sense of power. I dated someone who did cam work. From what I remember there were people who just wanted to feel like they were in control, but most of her clients were mostly after the feeling of intimacy of doing something with another person and talking to them. You hear similar stories of from other sex workers.

>> mostly after the feeling of intimacy of doing something with another person and talking to them

This is called "topping from the bottom". They're paying her, therefore they're in charge, and expecting to get the emotional payout they've put her in the position of giving them.

My gf was a professional dominatrix for 10 years and a stripper before that. The vast majority of men who engage those services are (by their own claim) just looking for - as you put it - feelings of intimacy. But it's not really limited to that. Why? Because their notion of intimacy is bound with ownership. This is a very difficult thing for us men to acknowledge, but it's fundamentally true. I mean: I can't ever be really intimate - completely intimate - with a woman I don't own, or who doesn't own me. The boundaries of power and control are so closely tied with the boundaries of sexual intimacy that the mere interplay between the two systems gives rise to an entire category of labor, i.e. sex work; which is differentiated into simple physical jobs versus psychological ones like domineering. This is what fucking billionaires pay for. It's not to be put in their place by a lowly "sex worker" - it's to be put in their place with proof that they are no better than this girl off the street.

Cam work is humiliating because you can't assail the dude. It leads to wrong conclusions on both sides about, for instance, who's actually in charge.

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