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Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change. One of the big issues I see with Reddit right now, is that we the community never "owned" the data. Now that the site owner's motives changed, we're stuck in this weird…

The world needs something like a web3 reddit.

You know what's an interesting problem? Decentralizing moderation. HN does it sort of but the masses are really stupid and biased.

Maybe an ML based personal moderator. Based off of comments you vote down or up.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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This just sounds like Reddit without solving any of the big problems of reddit.

I know you said you don't believe in federation, but why not solve the problems with federation.. or if you think that's entirely the wrong approach, then figure out some other way of solving the issues that federation attempts to address. Those issues don't disappear just because it's your project.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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post #11

A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change. One of the big issues I see with Reddit right now, is that we the community never "owned" the data. Now that the site owner's motives changed, we're stuck in this weird…

> A lot the post above boils down to "Trust me bro." As early users of a new website, what assurances can be put in place to help us believe the motives here? As the site grows, and costs exponentially more, your mindset and desires are sure to change.

Looking at this from your perspective, you have a really good point here. And I don't know exactly what to say to you except that, at the end of the day, with anything with network effects, you have to trust someone. This even applies to the fediverse; you have to trust the admins.

Perhaps the most that someone can do here is to proclaim their values loudly, so that they are, at the very least, putting their reputation on the line.

If you have any ideas what I could do here, I'd love to hear. Seriously.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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Meh, I disagree with point 1. Any platform that is not federated or at the minimum open source will go the same way as Twitter, Reddit, or Myspace. The idea of reddit is bigger than one site, it's a replacement for the internet forums. We don't need another platform lock in. I applaud the dev work, but this isn't going attract the tech crowd.

Hard disagree on point 1. I mean, yeh, you'll maybe win a hardcore niche of nerds with federated services, but the usability / understandability of federation is absolutely awful, per my AskHN recently [0]. That's not to say it couldn't be improved with some good UI and maybe some thoughts about how to communicate it, but right now your average Reddit / Insta / Facebook user is gunna be running a mile. It's absolutely baffling.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36330155

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

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This just sounds like Reddit without solving any of the big problems of reddit. I know you said you don't believe in federation, but why not solve the problems with federation.. or if you think that's entirely the wrong approach, then figure out some other way of solving the issues that federation attempts to address. Those issues don't disappear just because it's your project.

Wikipedia, although a non-profit, is not federated; it's a centralized platform. It doesn't seem to me that it's centralization that's necessarily the problem, although, I agree with you, it often is.

Re: Show HN: Discuit – A Reddit alternative with a clean UI and a sensible vision

#29

> No porn. What is porn? > No politics. What is political? > No racism or any form of bigotry. What is bigoted? > A soft rule of: Don't be an asshole. What is an asshole?

HN is more or less moderated on similar guidelines, and the discussions here are better than on most online spaces I've been a part of. I understand that one cannot draw a line to clearly separate categories from categories, but that doesn't mean that categories don't exist. As to the definition of these terms, I was only thinking of their "common sense" meaning.

HN works partly because it is a single forum about technical topics. It excludes subjects that produce contentious discussion.

Reddit is a general forum. There are subreddits that are moderated heavily and need to be, and those that are barely moderated. There are subreddits for porn and politics because people want those. Reddit replacement needs to support multiple communities and varying moderation.

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