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Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by Sakos »

cantsingh wrote: post #4

Could it be configured so if I go to, for example, https://i.haasie.com/something.png and you haven't already backed up from imgur, you back it up when that URL is hit?

Definitely agree. It also feels like this would be perfect in combination with something like ipfs for a decentralized way to store and access these images.

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by _a9 »

> Well done, you’ve defeated link rot

Until this site succumbs to the challenges of being a free image host?

FWIW ArchiveTeam is grabbing as much as possible so it could eventually show up in the wayback machine. Though what they have now, 47TB, is a drop to the petabytes imgur probably has now. There was an estimated 376 TiB in 2015.

- https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Imgur

- https://tracker.archiveteam.org/imgur/

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by nicklaf »

Interesting work! Thanks for putting this together.

One potentially problematic thing about the new Imgur policy is that it will break machine learning projects that depend on Imgur for NSFW data. For example, here's a project relying on Imgur links in order to train a classifier that detects adult content:

https://github.com/alex000kim/nsfw_data_scraper

https://github.com/EBazarov/nsfw_data_source_urls

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by rvavruch »

quickthrower2 wrote: post #2

First off: great work! The age old question is how you afford to run this, and how if you get popular do you not become an imgur yourself and have their same pressures to delete, moderate and make money.

Thank you! My thinking is to start with donations. There is no such thing as a free service. If people get value from using it to upload anonymously and they want to keep it going, makes sense to donate.

In the future I could also add a subscription account for additional features, access to an API, bigger upload limits, transformations, greater ability to organise, etc.

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by wincy »

groby_b wrote: post #15
myself248 wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's sad to me that we went away from everyone just having their personal web space as part of their ISP package. Ditto email. It meant more smaller providers had to play nice and we didn't have a few major companies arbitrarily deciding what to host and what to drop. I don't believe it should be government funded, but I wish there was a protocol that would let my ISP allocate a few GB of resources on my behalf that…

You can't because some people hosted extremely popular files (often starting with p- and ending in -orn) on the few GB that your local ISP gave you. And your local ISP suddenly needed to serve hundreds of terabytes they didn't have in their peering budget. So now you need caps. And enforcement. And exceptions. And suddenly, you have a cloud service provider. And they've invested a ton into making the place nice, and…

Sorry what is PG&E? I googled it, is this a reference to the power company in California? I don’t live in California so am not sure. I thought initially maybe it was some acronym for Privatize Gains and Externalize losses?

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by MayeulC »

That makes me think something like this could be a nice phpbb plugin.

Let forum admins compile a list of linked imgur posts that should be archived. Storage and bandwidth are cheap compared to what they used to be, so some may be able to self-host images now.

Re: Show HN: Avoiding Imgur Link Rot

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Post by rvavruch »

_a9 wrote: post #23

> Well done, you’ve defeated link rot Until this site succumbs to the challenges of being a free image host? FWIW ArchiveTeam is grabbing as much as possible so it could eventually show up in the wayback machine. Though what they have now, 47TB, is a drop to the petabytes imgur probably has now. There was an estimated 376 TiB in 2015. - https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/Imgur - https://tracker.archiveteam.org/im…

My intention is not to be a free host though - that's not sustainable. I hope to fund it through donations and potentially a subscription for enhanced features.
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