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Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#21

Post by SoftwareMaven » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:02 PM UTC

It really needs a small "experience" section. It should be small, so a recruiter can still scan; but I really want to be able to differentiate at least between junior and senior people.

I also would like to have an "interest". I don't want to contact somebody wanting to do games for my web startup. That just wastes both our time.

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#22

Post by raimondious » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:02 PM UTC

jpablo wrote: post #12

thematt wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree, I've never understood why that data point is relevant to the job I'm applying/being-recruited for.

Because they want to offer just enough for the money to be attractive to you, but no more.

But that only explains it from the poacher's perspective. The question still remains, why would the poachee want to state their current salary?

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#23

Post by mietek » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:02 PM UTC

noobface wrote: post #11

After posting and reading all the other listings. I've realized I'm one of the few hardware guys on HN. Any other hardware/low-level guys out there?

If you count C as low-level, here I am. Now what?

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#24

Post by powrtoch » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:02 PM UTC

ferrofluid wrote: post #10

v33ra wrote: post #4

Feature request: What happens when there are hundreds of listings? Would people be reading all those listings line by line? A search box with filters for each input data you are collecting would be a nice fit.

I can already see it cluttering up. Thanks, I'll add that shortly!

I was going to suggest this, as well as a way to browse by category. Employers probably don't want to look for "iOS developer" and "iOS programmer" and "iOS engineer", so some kind of automatic way to combine these seems useful.

Also, filtering by salary.

Overall though, love the idea.

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#25

Post by ohashi » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

It struck me as odd that I would want to hire people this way. As far as I can tell everyone is just asking for more money (big surprise, I know) but it says nothing about what they want to do, are interested in, etc. Do I just blindly reach out to a bunch of people and hope they match my needs?

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#26

Post by LukeRB » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

thematt wrote: post #8

gte910h wrote: post #7

Why would people disclose the current salary they have?

I agree, I've never understood why that data point is relevant to the job I'm applying/being-recruited for.

I think it's even more interesting when the first number is more than the second, as it is in the listing below:

"I'm a Mobile Product Support Specialist, and I currently make $90,000 in Mountain View, CA. I'm ONLY interested in jobs as a Community Manager, Product Quality Analyst, Junior UX/Interaction Designer that pay at least $65,000 in San Francisco, CA."

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#27

Post by coffee_bender » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:04 PM UTC

noobface wrote: post #11

After posting and reading all the other listings. I've realized I'm one of the few hardware guys on HN. Any other hardware/low-level guys out there?

I primarily do FPGA design and embedded software. I agree we are definitely under represented on HN though.

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#28

Post by damon_c » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:05 PM UTC

I got contacted by a recruiter within 20 minutes of posting.

Suddenly, I'm thinking that it IS kind of strange that if I reply to their email, I will be beginning a relationship with someone who already knows my approximate salary.

On the plus side, they contacted me knowing that information full well. No nonsense with lowballing. Maybe it's a great starting point!

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#29

Post by nestlequ1k » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:06 PM UTC

gte910h wrote: post #7

Why would people disclose the current salary they have?

The site's called "job poacher". You poach a good dev (who likes his job) by offering significantly more money than they're making now. 15k-20k more is usually enough to snatch anyone from anywhere.

Re: Show HN: Get a better job offer, anonymously - my weekend hack

#30

Post by randomdata » Mon, Feb 06, 2012, 5:08 PM UTC

zeratul wrote: post #14

Maybe instead of "and I currently make ___" you should have "and I have ___ years experience in ____". Or at least have both.

Pay is probably a better indicator though. People can have years of experience and still not be good at the job, but pay highlights what kind of value they are generating. Someone who is not good at the job is unlikely to be in the position to earn top dollar.

There will be outliers. Like the talented person who is willing to work for peanuts just because the job is amazing. But that is why there is an infinite number of ways to find a job.