Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT • Hacker News Board

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by fliife » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

leobg wrote: post #16

Will it run on OS 10.13? And: Any plans for integrating audio? (Whisper speech to text and Elevenlabs or something as TTS. Should have a general toggle for when you want to work silently. And shouldn’t read code or tables.)

It most likely won't work on OS 10.13. I've looked at this issue earlier today and I'm relying on libraries that require macOS ≥ 13.0. I might look into it if there is demand for it though, but this will probably require leaving out some functionalities for older OSes.

As for audio integration, this in not on the to-do list, as I am looking to keep the client lightweight.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by motoboi » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

alfalfasprout wrote: post #20

fliife wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…

it's $20/mo... that's pretty cheap no?

expensive in brazil, at least.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by motoboi » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

Method-X wrote: post #11

fliife wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !

Not even kidding, I would pay $1000 USD per month for GPT4 access.

Well, soon you'll can. Just select the GPT-4 32k and voila. 30 dollars a day.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by sparker72678 » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 9:57 PM UTC

What sort of data (if any) do you, the developer, collect?

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by Method-X » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 9:58 PM UTC

motoboi wrote: post #23

Method-X wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not even kidding, I would pay $1000 USD per month for GPT4 access.

Well, soon you'll can. Just select the GPT-4 32k and voila. 30 dollars a day.

I'm on the waiting list for GPT4 API access. Giving this thing an entire projects codebase will be super interesting!

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by fliife » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 10:04 PM UTC

sparker72678 wrote: post #24

What sort of data (if any) do you, the developer, collect?

Through the app, none. The app uses your OpenAI API key and your Gumroad license key to verify access to both of those services. License management is handled via Gumroad, their privacy policy might enlighten you further. My impression is they only require an email and some billing info (Paypal or Credit card)

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by baggsie » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

Method-X wrote: post #11

fliife wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on your usage, I guess. I personnaly couldn't justify it. In the last few weeks, I've used the API extensively and total cost comes to a few dollars max. Admittedly, the API doesn't provide nearly as many features as ChatGPT Plus does. To each their own !

Not even kidding, I would pay $1000 USD per month for GPT4 access.

It's been a watershed moment for me and honestly, even after just a few months I can't imagine life without it.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by nickthegreek » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 10:07 PM UTC

fliife wrote: post #6

Etheryte wrote: post #4

Out of curiosity, what does a native app offer in this context that using ChatGPT in a browser tab doesn't? I understand you can add shortcuts such as opening it and starting a new chat, but outside of that?

Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…

enjoying the app.

- I would love a toggle to make the left hand chats just title, no preview to save space.

- Reordering of chats.

- When i am in a chat, the upper right should say the model but it just says 'GPT...'.

- Ability to copy just code blocks to clipboard like in the traditional chatgpt plus interface.

- Ability to export a chat.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by fliife » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 10:15 PM UTC

nickthegreek wrote: post #28

fliife wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Multiple factors made me implement this: - ChatGPT Plus is crazy expensive, and the free tier is often down. I found it especially frustrating to not get access to my chat history when ChatGPT's load was high. Since alternative clients go through the API, their are exempt from load balancing. - A native client is lightweight and doesn't rely on web technologies. This is a matter of personal taste, but I like the look…

enjoying the app. - I would love a toggle to make the left hand chats just title, no preview to save space. - Reordering of chats. - When i am in a chat, the upper right should say the model but it just says 'GPT...'. - Ability to copy just code blocks to clipboard like in the traditional chatgpt plus interface. - Ability to export a chat.

Replying in order:

- Noted ! This shouldn't be too hard to implement.

- This is an important feature, I'm looking to implement it in the very near future.

- I had this happen a few times. I'll try to troubleshoot the issue. In the meantime, I found that resizing the window fixed the issue.

- Yup ! I've added it to the to-do list.

- What kind of format would you find useful ?

I'm happy you're enjoying the app.

Re: Show HN: Machato — A native macOS client for ChatGPT

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Post by smcleod » Thu, Apr 06, 2023, 10:16 PM UTC

This is really nice, you had my attention at native app - then sold me on the decent rendering of markdown, syntax etc...

I love that it's a 100% native application (no Electron/Chrome garbage etc...), so refreshing to see an unbloated app these days. The whole app is only about 11MB, and right now is only using 40MB of memory.