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Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by matsemann »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

Last time I asked a developer to fix a bug, he charged me $300 to google the api docs..!

But this isn't even about the doctor asking GPT, this is transcribing the video call so the journaling becomes easier and the doctor can spend more time with their patients. A good thing, no?

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by mrtksn »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

Well if you believe that you can have you fixed by Googling and still go to someone else to do the Googling you obviously have to pay.

No one is obligated to do free Googling.

Or maybe you didn’t go the for the Googling?

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by lukah »

This is really interesting work, congratulations! A lot of negativity in the comments seems to stem from cynicism around doctors and their billing, but in a country like the UK I know removing essentially "admin tasks" from the GP would be very welcome and give time back to the clinician, allowing them to spend more time focussing on the patient and outcomes.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by NorthOf33rd »

This is the scariest real life attempt to use the bullshit machine I’ve seen so far.

Nothing like “subtly wrong” clinical notes to affect positive medical outcomes. And time pressed medical professionals are certainly well suited to vigilance tasks like correcting machine generated errors. /s.

I sincerely hope this never sees the light of day.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by jimnotgym »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

Last time I went to the doctor it was free.

I just like to point out the small advantages of living in Europe now and again

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by nickphx »

orcajerk wrote: post #6

Last time I went to the doctor, he charged me $300 to google symptoms on a computer. Now you're saying I get to pay $300 for him to ask ChatGPT? No thanks. We all know that is where this is going - doctor decision support system, i.e. the AI has access to information locked behind expensive journals that the patient does not.

I believe this product is to help the physicians transcribe notes and medical chart information from video/audio recordings, not diagnose.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by vsareto »

urduntupu wrote: post #12

Technically interesting but solving the wrong problem. Doctor's already today spent too little time with their patients to understand diseases holistically enough. Adding technically between these 2 will make treatments in most of the cases worse, not better.

Nothing's going to fix that but having more doctors around.

Going from a recorded transcript to a summary note, extracted structured data, and diagnostic codes is a big time saver.

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Post by stopachka »

urduntupu wrote: post #12

Technically interesting but solving the wrong problem. Doctor's already today spent too little time with their patients to understand diseases holistically enough. Adding technically between these 2 will make treatments in most of the cases worse, not better.

Right now, drs type notes as you speak to them. If this works, they'd have more time to spend actually listening and talking to you.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by v4dok »

agilob wrote: post #11
v4dok wrote: post #4

I like the idea, but I would like it even more if it was on-prem. The doctors (at least in EU) will be very wary of having their client meeting essentially recorded by a third party. With this as a cloud SaaS, patient confidentiality is essentially broken since the raw data is available to you while you transcribe it. I understand that you compete with "google speech-to-text" but this is not a feature meant to be use…

There are so many regulations and certifications to do that there are no chances anyone will have money and time to do all paperwork to host it on-perm. Because of these regulatory reasons most hospitals use so old systems that it surprises no one to see Windows XP with IE6 there. I had the pleasure myself of fixing a Material Angular bug that wasn't displaying form fields validation correctly in IE6 only 2 years ago…

I've read about yesterday someone running LLAMA in a single GPU. Maybe if you optimise the model enough, you can give it to them as a box.

Re: Show HN: Using GPT-3 and Whisper to save doctors’ time

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Post by jjoonathan »

priyanmuthu wrote: post #10

My worry is verification of facts. What if the model summarized incorrect facts, and it gets added to the medical history? How can doctors easily verify and fix things?

Have you had a medical billing experience recently? They don't care about facts, they care about maximizing the bill subject to plausibility constraints.

I fear that LLMs will kick this to a whole new level :(

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