Show HN: Umbrel – A personal server OS for self-hosting

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 8:48 PM UTC

ensignavenger wrote: post #13

mayankchhabra wrote: post #12

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Licensing is a nuanced subject so we've written a detailed post on it. But in short, our license grants you the same rights that come with an open source license, except the right to sell or commercialize Umbrel. Here's our post that explains our licensing in detail: https://blog.getumbrel.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about...

Except it denies me the right to purchase support services from the vendor of my choosing. It also denies me the ability to hire a contractor of my choosing to create a derivative of the product or even contribute changes to the product. It further denies me the ability to receive sponsorship from another individual to create a derivative work (This falls under commercializing, but the other two would not be me doing…

Post by woojoo666 » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 8:59 PM UTC

candiddevmike wrote: post #16

I think the overlap of folks who want to self host and folks who don't already use a preferred Linux distro or Windows is quite small.

Post by mayankchhabra » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 9:05 PM UTC

kentonv wrote: post #18

mayankchhabra wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Licensing is a nuanced subject so we've written a detailed post on it. But in short, our license grants you the same rights that come with an open source license, except the right to sell or commercialize Umbrel. Here's our post that explains our licensing in detail: https://blog.getumbrel.com/everything-you-need-to-know-about...

No, it's not Open Source. It's a perfectly justifiable decision, but it's not Open Source, nor is it equivalent. Yes, your license means that individual users can make little patches to customize the product to their needs, and even share these customizations with other users. That's great! But the license effectively prohibits borrowing code from your codebase for use in other projects, meaning your code does not be…

Post by [deleted] » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 9:22 PM UTC

candiddevmike wrote: post #16

I think the overlap of folks who want to self host and folks who don't already use a preferred Linux distro or Windows is quite small.

Post by Hamuko » Tue, Jun 07, 2022, 9:24 PM UTC

woojoo666 wrote: post #23

candiddevmike wrote: post #16

I think the overlap of folks who want to self host and folks who don't already use a preferred Linux distro or Windows is quite small.

If self hosting were as easy and stable as signing up for a cloud service, I think people would switch