Like reading Rfc in 1990s … a bit odd choice to use this format and font to sell anything these days.
Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
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Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#22So much complaint about color schemes. Hitting the Reader View formatted the page beautifully. I'm thankful it is a simple HTML page that could be easily formatted using browser-built-in tools.
Is there something like a box that you can key in something and it works. Reader view give you text. Also that box?
I lost … perhaps I expect a REPL or … anyway not good to sell CL-webassembly I think.
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#23...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
Talking about the page behind the link - it's not like Sistine chapel, of course, but it's completely ok. In digital realm your perception is very strongly affected by medium/device/environment. Maybe that's the case. Not commenting about hyperspec though
The contrast between light blue for links and vibrant yellow for the background is absolutely not okay, I find it almost impossible to read.
Yellow as background can work well, but this is not the way.
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#24...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
PureScript always sets the bar high for this in my mind, here's an example documentation page: https://pursuit.purescript.org/packages/purescript-effect/4....
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#25...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
The hyperspec is copyrighted and licensed in a way where we can't change it at all. It's like the primary source to learn so impossible for anyone knowledgeable to clean-room reverse engineer a new one.
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#26Great work! You write, > …wasm has a few poor decisions in its design that make it less-than-conducive to being a target for Common Lisp… Could you say a bit more about those design decisions?
I think a major limitation is that a WebAssembly module can’t run dynamically generated code, which is a huge part of typical Common Lisp implementations.
You could certainly generate a new Wasm module on the fly and then execute it from Javascript. Linking and sharing of memory should be possible.
Pyodide can dynamically load libraries that are separate Wasm modules so it is worth checking out how that works.
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#27...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
So true! Also, there are no decent UI frameworks for Lisp, so it's impossible to build a full stack app that looks good in a modern browser without adding a TS or JS web component layer. And... There's no modern IDE for Lisp. I think this aspect of ignoring UIs and aesthetics has seriously held back CL.
> Also, there are no decent UI frameworks for Lisp
How about CLOG and cl-cffi-gtk?
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#28...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
> why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics
What? It looks perfectly fine on my monochromatic Genera monitor!
Jokes aside, Firefox's reader view makes it only marginally more readable. I wonder if it took the author extra effort to make it look like that, and whether there's a better page sanifier than the reader view.
Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#29...god, my eyes ...why is everything CL plagued by such horrible design choices (hyperspec, Lisp-IDEs... all!) - why such ugly colors, ugly typography, bad contrasts, ugly logos, ugly diagrams, ugly supporting graphics?! I know that even the language itself is kind of the opposite of "beautiful", but the way all docs, blogs, websites etc. look ...seriously, is this intended to scare away any aesthetically sensitive p…
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Re: Show HN: Common Lisp running natively over WebAssembly for the first time
#30So much complaint about color schemes. Hitting the Reader View formatted the page beautifully. I'm thankful it is a simple HTML page that could be easily formatted using browser-built-in tools.
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