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Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by vimeh »

pedalpete wrote: post #5

I came across this earlier today, and part of me wants one, but I think a bigger part of me doesn't. I am sure it was a ton of work to get this done, and congrats on that. I'm curious as to why you chose Razer as a partner in this (though I don't know who else I would recommend), and why a laptop? My experience. In my last start-up we bought 4 Razer Blades, well, we actually bought two, but ended up going through 4 m…

> why you chose Razer

Tensorbook is better now.

> and why a laptop?

Somebody asked [λ] for one in 2017.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by rfd4sgmk8u »

999900000999 wrote: post #14
sharms wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is an option to add Windows when you click through to customize.

Why in God's name is it 500$ ? OEM windows licenses are basically free. Even if you brought it individually it's only 200$. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rk... Definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Looks like you'd save a solid 1500 by just buying a 3080 Razer laptop and setting it up yourself. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-blade-15-advanced-15-6-ga...

Negative incentive to discourage windows use, reducing cost for the vendor who now does not have to support proprietary drivers. Many vendors have realized that standard components lead to almost complete support in desktop Linuxes today. Upstream chip vendors providing drivers to the open source kernel, bypassing the need to get Microsofts blessing for selling product to your customer.

I want a world where you have to pay 500 to keep using that awful proprietary spyware malwared os. Join us in free and open source Linux land. You have less and less reasons to pay microsoft tithes every year.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by 999900000999 »

rfd4sgmk8u wrote: post #22
999900000999 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why in God's name is it 500$ ? OEM windows licenses are basically free. Even if you brought it individually it's only 200$. https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/d/windows-10-pro/df77x4d43rk... Definitely leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Looks like you'd save a solid 1500 by just buying a 3080 Razer laptop and setting it up yourself. https://www.bestbuy.com/site/razer-blade-15-advanced-15-6-ga...

Negative incentive to discourage windows use, reducing cost for the vendor who now does not have to support proprietary drivers. Many vendors have realized that standard components lead to almost complete support in desktop Linuxes today. Upstream chip vendors providing drivers to the open source kernel, bypassing the need to get Microsofts blessing for selling product to your customer. I want a world where you have…

Your still losing money buying this vs getting the above laptop I mentioned and installing Ubuntu on it.

I'm not going to get into an argument about OSs. All 3 major desktop OSes do somethings well, and somethings poorly.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by nicomachean »

rgrmrts wrote: post #9
nicomachean wrote: post #4

One question: why 11th gen intel cpu?

AFAIK 12th is not yet fully supported on Linux (thread scheduler or something along those lines). It should be supported in a coming release last I checked.

I did not realise that. Thanks for the info.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by nicomachean »

chrsw wrote: post #8
nicomachean wrote: post #4

One question: why 11th gen intel cpu?

Someone on Notebookcheck said CPU choice could be related to the lack of AVX-512 support on the 12th gens. But I have my doubts. Wouldn't the GPU be the most important component for ML workloads in general?

Mostly, but sometimes when I'm prototyping to get quick results I will write CPU-intensive preprocessing steps (i.e. very ugly loops of shame) before converting to matrix algebra for the GPU.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

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Post by alexvoda »

pedalpete wrote: post #5

I came across this earlier today, and part of me wants one, but I think a bigger part of me doesn't. I am sure it was a ton of work to get this done, and congrats on that. I'm curious as to why you chose Razer as a partner in this (though I don't know who else I would recommend), and why a laptop? My experience. In my last start-up we bought 4 Razer Blades, well, we actually bought two, but ended up going through 4 m…

Indeed, that is why my next laptop will preferably only have integrated graphics. For stuff that requires a powerful GPU, a remote desktop or a Thunderbolt eGPU is a more powerful and more flexible option.

On a laptop I prefer to spend that weight and energy budget elsewhere.

And I believe the current gen (AMD 6000 & Intel 12'th gen) of CPUs (paired with as much RAM as possible) is perfect for this pattern. Both have good iGPUs, and USB4/Thunderbolt.

Too bad OEM are sacrificing quality on other parts like the keyboard.

Re: Show HN: Razer x Lambda Tensorbook

#30

Post by z991 »

Vinay,

I'm as close to a True Believer for this product as you'll find. I'm typing this from a Blade 15 in Ubuntu I bought 2 weeks ago for deep learning (not knowing about the Lambda collaboration!)

I've been using Razer laptops for years and use Lambda boxes at work. All great computers. As you can imagine, running Linux on these is a chore (my current adventure [1]) so I'm very excited to see some official support.

I have many questions, but the first is something that seems so obvious from the outside: Razer clearly has a battery-failure problem. From my perspective this is because these laptops are plugged in most of the time and have no control to avoid changing to 100% and holding the battery there. Over the lifetime, that's terrible for the battery and most vendors do something about it. Apple will not always charge to 100% via some mysterious schedule, an older Dell Latitude I had used a setting in the BIOS to charge to 90% when plugged in for a long time.

Why doesn't Razer get their BIOS vendor to do this? At this point it feels like a reputational problem, and one that is well deserved. I've bought 4 Razer batteries on eBay for 3 different laptops and expect to buy a fifth for this machine in a few years.

Regardless, thanks for making the first laptop I've ever seen that feels like it was made for me. Can't wait to try one out.

[1] https://abarry.org/ubuntu-on-razer-blade-15-2022-advanced/

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