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Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Thanks for putting together the site, it's amazing that your son read 300 books already.

Suitability of books is a complex topic, but the site is a good start.

Typo: Animal Farm is by George Orwell (= Eric Blair), not by Jack London as the site says.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Out of curiosity, why did you put quotes around the word "marriage"? Am I correctly interpreting your comment as implying that same-sex marriage is not legitimate, and that children should not be aware of its existence (or at least, that its inclusion makes a book inappropriate for children)?

I think people get very upset quickly, and I dont want to be upsetting.. so lets not argue in any case, even if we do not agree..

I come from a religious background, and I support plural, open society myself. So same-sex couples are a thing, and people do that.. so they are free to do that.. as I am free to pursue a stricter social definition.

There are people on both sides of this discussion, that feel so strongly about their point of view, that they actively, definitely, without apology and sometimes by unfair means, seek to present, influence and be role models for children in formative stages of learning.

Therefore, on both sides of this topic, I believe that "open" material like books for children, that there needs to be safety and guidelines, in the clear open discussion, about what is in them.. for the parents, family and their social groups to make their own decisions.

Lastly, you are right, I added quotes around "Marriage" because in my tradition, Marriage means a sacred union of one man and one woman. I am committed to support "civil unions" for legal rights of same sex couples, especially high-stakes end-of-life things like medical authority and inheritance, but no one cares about me personally, these are large topics that are decided in a civil process. I support that civil process.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Out of curiosity, why did you put quotes around the word "marriage"? Am I correctly interpreting your comment as implying that same-sex marriage is not legitimate, and that children should not be aware of its existence (or at least, that its inclusion makes a book inappropriate for children)?

I think people get very upset quickly, and I dont want to be upsetting.. so lets not argue in any case, even if we do not agree.. I come from a religious background, and I support plural, open society myself. So same-sex couples are a thing, and people do that.. so they are free to do that.. as I am free to pursue a stricter social definition. There are people on both sides of this discussion, that feel so strongly a…

It's child abuse for parents to hide the existence of gay relationships from their children. You're advocating child abuse under genteel language.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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I always found it interesting how different books for teenagers were from movies considered appropriate for the same age group. For example, the "Cherub" series by Robert Muchamore, which I greatly enjoyed as a kid, included crime, drug and alcohol use (even by kids), sex scenes, mentions of underage prostitution and human trafficking, and even a scene of an attempted rape on a minor. The much more popular "Hunger Ga…

I would like to see the teens break out of the sameness of all the books in the young adult market and read more "adult" books. By adult, I mean some of the less cookie cutter book history has to offer. Yes, I realize there are formulaic books for adults as well, but the young adult market takes it to another level.

I could also live with no more stories about saving society or the world and how it happens to have fallen about a teenager where they aren't sure what looks best to wear and can't decide between several people as a romantic partner among those who are helping them along their quest.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Hi HN, Bookvine.io helps find age appropriate books for kids, with links to get it from Amazon or your local county library (limited to US for now). This was created by my 13yr old son who is an avid reader. I used to spend hours trying to get the right books for him to read and then get it from local county library or Amazon. He wanted to create this site from the books that he has read - to help others in a similar…

Great patenting, kudos.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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I think people get very upset quickly, and I dont want to be upsetting.. so lets not argue in any case, even if we do not agree.. I come from a religious background, and I support plural, open society myself. So same-sex couples are a thing, and people do that.. so they are free to do that.. as I am free to pursue a stricter social definition. There are people on both sides of this discussion, that feel so strongly a…

It's child abuse for parents to hide the existence of gay relationships from their children. You're advocating child abuse under genteel language.

That's an absurd argument. Reductio ad absurdum. Every parent has the right to determine when and how their kids learn about various developmental and sexual topics.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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This is a difficult problem to solve for some kids, because there are at least two dimensions to consider: - language difficulty (which is what lexile aims to measure) - how appropriate the topic is My 5.5yo son is decoding words at about 4th grade level (based on an informal 'San Diego Quick Assessment'). But he's limited in his reading by: - his life experience and existing knowledge, which both affect comprehensio…

Totally agree. My boys are reading at an extremely high level. I wish sites like these were a grid of topical and reading level.

The same goes for the inverse. It can be discouraging for kids behind in reading to be assigned content based on their age (or grade) only for it to be far too challenging.

It’s a hard problem though because categorization makes it easy to organize content and find what you’re looking for, but it can also feel like a competition, which is not always helpful.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Totally agree. My boys are reading at an extremely high level. I wish sites like these were a grid of topical and reading level.

The same goes for the inverse. It can be discouraging for kids behind in reading to be assigned content based on their age (or grade) only for it to be far too challenging. It’s a hard problem though because categorization makes it easy to organize content and find what you’re looking for, but it can also feel like a competition, which is not always helpful.

I wonder if the solution is _not_ naming the categories...simply ordering them by difficulty...

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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This is a difficult problem to solve for some kids, because there are at least two dimensions to consider: - language difficulty (which is what lexile aims to measure) - how appropriate the topic is My 5.5yo son is decoding words at about 4th grade level (based on an informal 'San Diego Quick Assessment'). But he's limited in his reading by: - his life experience and existing knowledge, which both affect comprehensio…

A few you might check out: The Humphrey the hamster series The Zoey and Sassafras series The Secret Explorers series Alice in Wonderland Some Beverly Cleary books Many of the DK nonfiction books

Thanks for the suggestions. Will definitely ask my son to check it out and then add it.

Re: Show HN: Bookvine.io – Help find age appropriate books for kids aged 6 to 14

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Totally agree with you on all the points. As with most recommendations - YMMV. This is just to provide a guideline/reference. The way I recommend seeing this list is - say your kid likes "The Penderwicks" then..."hey are few other books that are similar to The Penderwicks"

Yes, definitely. I hope my comment didn't come across as criticism! I love seeing sites like your kid's. I was more lamenting the general difficulty of the problem. (And possibly just the lack of books that are suitable for kids who are advanced at reading, but have interests similar to other kids their age.)

Not taking it as criticism. I totally agree with you. I think as a parent of these advanced kids it puts more onus on the parent and kid to work together to identify appropriate books based on these reference points.
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