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Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by js4ever »

shrubble wrote: post #20

How does this compare to Softaculous.com 's offerings, would you say? I know and have used Softaculous to install and maintain Wordpress and other applications in the past.

Hey shrubble, AFAIK Softaculous is focused on PHP softwares that can be hosted on sharedhosting. On our side we deploy any kind of open-source software with docker so we don't have any particular limitations or affinity to php softwares. And so our catalog of supported software is quite different :)

Also Softaculous templates where a bit old and not always maintained, on our side we have a totally different implementation and we are doing semVer updates based on tags available on docker hub, monitoring, alerts, backups, migrations, security and more.

We also have support for MySQL & KeyDB multi-master clusters, and we are going to introduce soon more cluster options

https://doc.elest.io/books/database-clusters/page/mysql-clus...

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by ccleve »

For services like this, I'm always suspicious about pricing. I see an hourly rate, but it's hard for me to figure out how much it's costing me to have you manage this instead of me. As a result, I rarely buy software at an hourly rate even though it might make economic sense to do so.

Here's a suggestion: instead of quoting your own rate, instead say "we charge X% over and above our hourly cost for AWS, Digital Ocean, etc." That kind of price transparency would go a long way for me.

I also wouldn't have to spend hours trying to figure out what instances you use, the hourly rate, what you're charging, am I getting ripped off, and redo the whole process every six months.

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by macilacilove »

Nice! I want may project start cheap, and then scale 'automatically' as demand grows. My nightmare is to have an outage when my project is most popular. How do you deal with this if I deploy with you?

Very promising project, (and seems very good fit for HN too) keep up the good work!

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by ceesharp »

js4ever wrote: post #19
ceesharp wrote: post #17

Looks nice. Great job. Can I deploy multiple services on the same instance?

Hey ceesharp, No, it’s not possible for multiple reasons: 1) We want to avoid additional services having impacts on your main service, like one of the services, could use all the resources (cpu, ram, disk) and crash everything else. 2) We are offering several types of backups, including daily full VM snapshots, if you need to restore a VM snapshot this will impact all the software on the VM 3) Price overhead of havin…

Hey, thanks for the detailed answer.

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by js4ever »

ccleve wrote: post #22

For services like this, I'm always suspicious about pricing. I see an hourly rate, but it's hard for me to figure out how much it's costing me to have you manage this instead of me. As a result, I rarely buy software at an hourly rate even though it might make economic sense to do so. Here's a suggestion: instead of quoting your own rate, instead say "we charge X% over and above our hourly cost for AWS, Digital Ocean…

Hey ccleve We do have the all-inclusive pricing, but we also offer a BringYourOwnVM plan where you pay yourself for the VM with your cloud provider and you pay to us only management fees.

Management fees are based on the VM size you connect, we charge $5 per CPU + $2.5 per GB RAM + 0.25 per 10GB/disk. This is a monthly estimation but this is also billed per hour without any commitment.

Let's take an example, if you have a VM with 1 CPU/1GB RAM/20GB disk, total per month for the management fees are 5+2.5+0.5 = $8 per month.

And for that price you get automated OS & Software updates, alerts & monitoring, global private networking, automated remote backups with versioning in another DC, Migration capabilities and few other things.

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by js4ever »

macilacilove wrote: post #23

Nice! I want may project start cheap, and then scale 'automatically' as demand grows. My nightmare is to have an outage when my project is most popular. How do you deal with this if I deploy with you? Very promising project, (and seems very good fit for HN too) keep up the good work!

Hey macilacilove, thanks :)

from the service dashboard you can rescale vertically your service at any time manually in few clicks, we also have an api that allow to do that (and anything else that can be done from our frontend).

Doing it on a single node imply some downtime to rescale the instance. We do have an auto-rescale feature in our roadmap for later this year with our clusters plans

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by pachico »

Congratulations and good luck! I really like the service.

However, as someone who relies a lot on Hetzner and AWS, it would be hard to justify a X10 increase in cost. I run my ClickHouse clusters in ax101 servers in Hetzner for roughly 110€/month while similar specs seem to cost 1226 USD/month.

Trust me, I'd like to externalise it but not at this cost :)

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by tempnow987 »

js4ever wrote: post #13
ushakov wrote: post #12

very cool, but why isn't this platform open-source?

Hey Ushakov We have published some parts of the platform in open-source here: https://github.com/elestio https://github.com/elestio/cloudgate https://github.com/elestio/nginx-auto-ssl https://github.com/elestio/ws-screenshot https://github.com/elestio/nebula-rest-api We are also going to publish our light live monitoring system (backend and agent) based on websockets More to come :)

I wouldn't worry about open sourcing, I'd be more excited to see existing open source easier to use deploy and start generating a revenue stream for open source.

I can't wait to check your setup out.

Re: Show HN: Elestio – Managed platform for over 150 open-source software stacks

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Post by js4ever »

pachico wrote: post #27

Congratulations and good luck! I really like the service. However, as someone who relies a lot on Hetzner and AWS, it would be hard to justify a X10 increase in cost. I run my ClickHouse clusters in ax101 servers in Hetzner for roughly 110€/month while similar specs seem to cost 1226 USD/month. Trust me, I'd like to externalise it but not at this cost :)

Hey Pachico, Thanks a lot for your kind words :) Since you are able to deploy, secure, backup, and update/upgrade your os & software by yourself on a dedicated server, you are probably not our main target, or at least not for that extreme use case.

But considering a smaller instance, does it make sense to do everything by yourself instead of paying $10 per month?

Same question can be asked to businesses with less technical skills than you, how much are they ready to pay for this kind of fully managed services. AWS RDS for example is pretty expensive, with us you can have a multi-master MySQL 8 cluster for $20

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