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Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by TekMol »

gavinray wrote: post #12

My partner is a digital artist who makes a living off of freelance/commission work. I've been on the lookout for tools in this area since I suspect they're going to be a large part of art development in the future -- start with something rough out of a tool like this, and use it to save yourself a bunch of time early on + work on the details. Will share this!

I often wonder if the internet is useful for artists to earn money. And if so how.

Would you mind explaining how your partner aquires clients?

Are there online marketplaces for this type of work?

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by asnbft »

nbzso wrote: post #20

As and artist and designer I don't need machines to be creative. My brush is a tool under my control, my computer is a tool under my control. Focus on doing one thing well as a tool. Leave creativity for people.

It seems to me that OP's tool is not meant to replace the human creative process, but to support it. Like an intermediate step in the creative process that allows for more iterations.

> Leave creativity for people

That seems like a very black and white way of thinking. Where do you draw the line between human and 'machine-assisted' creativity? The second you start creating a mood board for your next project, you've probably already taken advantage of algorithmic feeds and content aggregators, but it's still you feeding the machine with querys etc.

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by gavinray »

TekMol wrote: post #21
gavinray wrote: post #12

My partner is a digital artist who makes a living off of freelance/commission work. I've been on the lookout for tools in this area since I suspect they're going to be a large part of art development in the future -- start with something rough out of a tool like this, and use it to save yourself a bunch of time early on + work on the details. Will share this!

I often wonder if the internet is useful for artists to earn money. And if so how. Would you mind explaining how your partner aquires clients? Are there online marketplaces for this type of work?

She contracts through various Discord servers, to a combination of friends and random people.

It's definitely not Fiverr or whatever typical thing you'd expect, it's hard to earn money that way.

Easier if you do niche stuff and cater to specific online communities + establish a reputation.

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by nbzso »

asnbft wrote: post #22
nbzso wrote: post #20

As and artist and designer I don't need machines to be creative. My brush is a tool under my control, my computer is a tool under my control. Focus on doing one thing well as a tool. Leave creativity for people.

It seems to me that OP's tool is not meant to replace the human creative process, but to support it. Like an intermediate step in the creative process that allows for more iterations. > Leave creativity for people That seems like a very black and white way of thinking. Where do you draw the line between human and 'machine-assisted' creativity? The second you start creating a mood board for your next project, you've p…

It is not black and white without a reason. But it is useless even to try to explain. And I don't create mood boards. I do research, and in this research computer is a tool.

Algorithmic feeds and content aggregators are for kids or the next cheap "decorator" with designers title. There is a only one historically proven way to be good in something and it is called learning and practicing.

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by TekMol »

gavinray wrote: post #24
TekMol wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I often wonder if the internet is useful for artists to earn money. And if so how. Would you mind explaining how your partner aquires clients? Are there online marketplaces for this type of work?

She contracts through various Discord servers, to a combination of friends and random people. It's definitely not Fiverr or whatever typical thing you'd expect, it's hard to earn money that way. Easier if you do niche stuff and cater to specific online communities + establish a reputation.

You mean like going to a discord server about dragons and announcing "Hey, I draw dragons! Does anybody want me to draw them as a dragon?".

That sounds like a lot of effort that has to go into this type of marketing then?

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by gavinray »

TekMol wrote: post #26
gavinray wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She contracts through various Discord servers, to a combination of friends and random people. It's definitely not Fiverr or whatever typical thing you'd expect, it's hard to earn money that way. Easier if you do niche stuff and cater to specific online communities + establish a reputation.

You mean like going to a discord server about dragons and announcing "Hey, I draw dragons! Does anybody want me to draw them as a dragon?". That sounds like a lot of effort that has to go into this type of marketing then?

  > That sounds like a lot of effort that has to go into this type of marketing then?
Ha, yeah that could definitely be the case depending on what kind of art you're doing I suppose.

She prefers to draw "adult art" for certain niche kinks/fetishes, which have a very large "supply & demand" problem. She enjoys drawing this stuff and does it for fun in free time.

(She will draw mostly anything though. She's done logos for small businesses, portraits bought as gifts to friends/family, etc.)

I could ask her more about how she gets clients/commissions if you want, but I think generally it goes something like this:

  1. Join a Discord server based around the particular fetish

  2. Post her work in the channels they have for "#i-made-this" or other original content

  3. Hang out and chat, mention that she does commissions

  4. Wait for people to DM her
And from what she said, it was much harder at the beginning just starting out. What happened was that once she had done a couple dozen commissions, those people would recommend her to other people and the work sort of sporadically but continuously has been rolling in this way.

It's a bit of a snowball effect thing.

Re: Show HN: ML enabled creative tools for artists and designers

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Post by TekMol »

gavinray wrote: post #27
TekMol wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You mean like going to a discord server about dragons and announcing "Hey, I draw dragons! Does anybody want me to draw them as a dragon?". That sounds like a lot of effort that has to go into this type of marketing then?

> That sounds like a lot of effort that has to go into this type of marketing then? Ha, yeah that could definitely be the case depending on what kind of art you're doing I suppose. She prefers to draw "adult art" for certain niche kinks/fetishes, which have a very large "supply & demand" problem. She enjoys drawing this stuff and does it for fun in free time. (She will draw mostly anything though. She's done logos fo…

Interesting. Thanks for the info.
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