This assumes that candidates succeed based exclusively on their own merit, where a poor employer or culture could actually be the reason why a good candidate does not work out.
Show HN: Peer to Peer Recruiting?
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#22> Endorsers put down a reasonable but significant sum of their own money in support of the candidate's application to your role. This feels like it's flirting with "pay to apply", which is an absolutely reliable sign of a scam and is rightfully illegal in many countries.
Endorsements remind me on how bank loans work. For every loan transaction that exists a collateral security or deposit is required to acquire the loan. Same can be said to this idea of endorsements -an amount of money (collateral security / deposit) to endorse the candidate and backs their skills / talent to get the role.
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#23> Endorsers put down a reasonable but significant sum of their own money in support of the candidate's application to your role. This feels like it's flirting with "pay to apply", which is an absolutely reliable sign of a scam and is rightfully illegal in many countries.
This scheme also feels inherently exploitable as it relies on all parties behaving honestly to function... which is somewhat ironic given all the astroturfing happening in this very post.
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#24Interesting concept "By paying £500 now to endorse Paul, you will receive £1000 if Paul is hired and passes probation. If Paul is hired and fails probation, your payment of £500 will be donated to charity. If Paul is not hired then your payment of £500 will be refunded." There are interactive demo pages https://gethigher.io/endorse/demo https://gethigher.io/dashboard/demo linked on the homepage, that qualifies for th…
"Here's 500, please endorse me"
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#25> Endorsers put down a reasonable but significant sum of their own money in support of the candidate's application to your role. This feels like it's flirting with "pay to apply", which is an absolutely reliable sign of a scam and is rightfully illegal in many countries.
AD: I hear you, we've just launched and money is our first and most generalised form of staking, expect more to come.
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#26I don't think the website communicates whatever service they're offering effectively. Unless the visitor knows exactly what they're looking for. IE. What is ATS? why do I want to see demo immediately?
There's a lot of "we're amazing!" on there.
It's trivial to get a flood of inadequate resumes and incompetent applicants.
So how does this avoid that problem in concrete market differentiated ways without using platitudes and self congratulatory language?
Is it the "Endorsement flow"? Why is it buried, sandwiched between a bunch of what Steve Krug called "happy talk" over 20 years ago?
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#27Interesting concept "By paying £500 now to endorse Paul, you will receive £1000 if Paul is hired and passes probation. If Paul is hired and fails probation, your payment of £500 will be donated to charity. If Paul is not hired then your payment of £500 will be refunded." There are interactive demo pages https://gethigher.io/endorse/demo https://gethigher.io/dashboard/demo linked on the homepage, that qualifies for th…
"Here's 500, please endorse me"
AD: Interestingly... thats just a self-endorsement via a proxy, someone is still taking a risk.
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#28Interesting concept "By paying £500 now to endorse Paul, you will receive £1000 if Paul is hired and passes probation. If Paul is hired and fails probation, your payment of £500 will be donated to charity. If Paul is not hired then your payment of £500 will be refunded." There are interactive demo pages https://gethigher.io/endorse/demo https://gethigher.io/dashboard/demo linked on the homepage, that qualifies for th…
This seems to be quite a fragile way of offloading some of the recruitment/interview/screening process to the persons friends. What stops Paul paying his friends/acquaintances to endorse him? Doesn't this perpetuate the lack of diversity in the job market? Whenever I hire I'll ask anyone I know that's worked in the same place if they have an opinion on them - but won't use a lack of one to not bring in for an intervi…
> What stops Paul paying his friends/acquaintances to endorse him?
AD: The fact that Paul is taking on all the risk, in effect Paul has made a self-endorsement via proxy... Paul can already self-endorse it's a valid signal of confidence that they feel they can do the job.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
This seems to be quite a fragile way of offloading some of the recruitment/interview/screening process to the persons friends. What stops Paul paying his friends/acquaintances to endorse him? Doesn't this perpetuate the lack of diversity in the job market? Whenever I hire I'll ask anyone I know that's worked in the same place if they have an opinion on them - but won't use a lack of one to not bring in for an intervi…
> What stops Paul paying his friends/acquaintances to endorse him? AD: The fact that Paul is taking on all the risk, in effect Paul has made a self-endorsement via proxy... Paul can already self-endorse it's a valid signal of confidence that they feel they can do the job.
This makes tonnes of sense with being confident in yourself to do the job. I would endorse myself
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#30Hello! Adrian and Paul here, we conceived of Higher almost 2 years ago now, partly inspired by a HN thread! The other part was Paul being asked to endorse a colleague he had worked with before, he did so positively, however the owners asked him if he'd bet anything on it and he retracted his endorsement! We invented the concept of a confidence curation market as a spin off from content creation markets, the system wi…
AD: It's worth pointing out that Harvard Business School just published a report[1] on what they deem as 'Hidden Workers' - one of the major factors in these workers remaining hidden is that their CV or digital profiles can't get past the AI filtering engines almost all ATS system use... We've side stepped AI filtering systems with peer-to-peer collateralised endorsements, humans are doing the match-making and at sca…
But AI can weigh connections too, if reqruiters use outdated AI systems doesn't mean AI cannot solve the current problem.