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#21

Cannot get past slide 19 on iOS Safari. “Next” button does nothing.

Thanks, yeah it’s an MVP. Was trying to gauge interest before I complete the whole translation.

It’s a good idea. But the book is a bad choice.

“un hidalgo de los de lanza en astillero”, is a great example of why this is the case.

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#22

Oh I'd definitely love to see this completed. I don't speak Spanish, so I'm not sure if this would be a problem here - are all sentences in Spanish guaranteed to have an almost one-one translation to English? In other words, what happens when the word order changes? This would be a huge deal in German.

My native language is Spanish. An interesting thing about it is that changing the word order generally does not change the meaning but it changes how it sounds (more prosaic or more poetic). That's not a hard rule, I'm sure you can also find examples where changing the word order changes the meaning.

I also agree with the rest of the comments here, the original Don Quixote is not a good book for learning Spanish, see here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don_Quixote#Style

A modern children's adaptation of the story may be a good choice for learning if OP wants to use the same story.

Re: Show HN: Learn Spanish quickly while reading

#23

Oh I'd definitely love to see this completed. I don't speak Spanish, so I'm not sure if this would be a problem here - are all sentences in Spanish guaranteed to have an almost one-one translation to English? In other words, what happens when the word order changes? This would be a huge deal in German.

German would definitely be problematic but it's still likely to be one of the least affected, especially in the English -> German direction, and nearly every word would at least has a clear translation. Virtually any sentence in an SOV (or less common, OSV) language would be essentially unworkable while maintaining word order.

German SV2O is still very jarring to me as a language learner; I just can‘t get used to looking forward in the sentence to decipher the verb, as compared to English.

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#24
Nicely done OP.

If you guys liked this, then there are similar solutions posted for the problem 'Teach me vocabulary without spending extra time'[1] on my problem validation platform.

As the problem title implies, it's about integrating language learning as part of our regular reading efforts. OP, You're welcomed to share your work there as well.

[1] https://needgap.com/problems/169-teach-me-vocabulary-without...

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post #13

This is great, amazing idea! However, I don't understand why you chose don quixote. That's not modern, normal, everyday prose, it was written 400 years ago.. any spanish kid would have trouble understanding it. Any other modern (less than 100 years) and famous novel would be much adequate for learning spanish.

It would be fun to go to Mexico or Spain and talk 400 years old Spanish like it's normal.

I have been reading game of thrones in Spanish and it's hilarious what has happened to my vocab. Ability to describe armor and varieties of horses? Check. Ability to use slang or informal language relevant to peers? Not so much.

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post #13

This is great, amazing idea! However, I don't understand why you chose don quixote. That's not modern, normal, everyday prose, it was written 400 years ago.. any spanish kid would have trouble understanding it. Any other modern (less than 100 years) and famous novel would be much adequate for learning spanish.

It would be fun to go to Mexico or Spain and talk 400 years old Spanish like it's normal.

Judging from the way it was portrayed in https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4136774/ "The Ministry of Time / El ministerio del tiempo" your fate was at the hands of arbitrary and capricious authorities.

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post #13

This is great, amazing idea! However, I don't understand why you chose don quixote. That's not modern, normal, everyday prose, it was written 400 years ago.. any spanish kid would have trouble understanding it. Any other modern (less than 100 years) and famous novel would be much adequate for learning spanish.

I agree it’s not very prosaic. I guess it has marketing value being a notorious story. Hopefully I can wrap it up and do a more modern novel. Any suggestions?

Is Love in the time of cholera both notorious and prosaic enough?

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#28
post #4

Really interesting approach. I've bookmarked the page. You should consider gathering emails to give updates. This should be the new killer app for e-readers. That tech is generally closed with too low powered processors due to power requirements for it to be implemented in any current generation. But it is just right for this kind of reading/learning. Are you doing the translation?

I also bookmarked as I have been learning spanish on and off.

I like that it starts with english, so that I have to try to guess what the Spanish is first. I missed the 'de' in 'de cuyo nombre' and now I don't think I'll easily forget.

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#29
post #13

This is great, amazing idea! However, I don't understand why you chose don quixote. That's not modern, normal, everyday prose, it was written 400 years ago.. any spanish kid would have trouble understanding it. Any other modern (less than 100 years) and famous novel would be much adequate for learning spanish.

I agree it’s not very prosaic. I guess it has marketing value being a notorious story. Hopefully I can wrap it up and do a more modern novel. Any suggestions?

Modern as in classical modern or today's thrillers?

Re: Show HN: Learn Spanish quickly while reading

#30
post #13

This is great, amazing idea! However, I don't understand why you chose don quixote. That's not modern, normal, everyday prose, it was written 400 years ago.. any spanish kid would have trouble understanding it. Any other modern (less than 100 years) and famous novel would be much adequate for learning spanish.

It would be fun to go to Mexico or Spain and talk 400 years old Spanish like it's normal.

Any medieval fair held by crust punks will mimic that old Spanish so-so.
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