I'm one of the founders of Abstra, a hackable no-code tool focused on making MVPs quickly aimed at coders (not necessarily developers). Could you please share some feedback? Anything is extremely valuable, thanks!
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#22I'm one of the founders of Abstra, a hackable no-code tool focused on making MVPs quickly aimed at coders (not necessarily developers). Could you please share some feedback? Anything is extremely valuable, thanks!
Hi, this looks really cool - slick UI and clear value proposition. Great job! Just a couple of questions: 1) why the emphasis on “for MVPs”? It seems like it can be used to build a proper product long term. Adding “for MVPs” make it seem like end users should expect to redo whatever they’ve done if they get any traction. 2)How does this compare to Retool (or how do you intend to differentiate it)?
2) Retool is tailored at internal tools, so you can't quite customize the UX as you'd want for something that is touching end users. Besides, it's quite expensive for the MVP use case because they price per user (we don't, our pricing page is coming soon).
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#23I would need an example project (the final product and template inside the tool) to give this a try. As it stands you just get dumped into the builder with no guidance whatsoever. I wanted to evaluate the tool, but there's no way I could dedicate that kind of time to something I didn't know existed 5 minutes ago without even knowing what it's capable of building. Surely you have made something complex and impressive…
We're working hard on this and we'll have something close to what you mentioned soon! Stay tuned :)
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#24First of all I have no coding background. I like creating projects so I find the no-code movement very valuable. Abstra seems like a low-code to me. Maybe that is what you mean "hackable no-code"? (edit: you mention low-code in your landing page) If that's the case, and since the lingo in the no/low-code movement is already established, maybe it's better to use it so people have a better understanding of what they ca…
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#25What’s the pricing model? I can’t see any mention on the site.
We're about to put it online, we will have a freemium tier with a cap on performance/data/etc. Then a basic plan for $6/mo with less cap, and so on. Pro = $84/mo * all plans have unlimited editors * all plans have unlimited end users You'd only pay more if your MVP is picking up traction in exchange for more performance, but your apps always run regardless.-
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#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hi, this looks really cool - slick UI and clear value proposition. Great job! Just a couple of questions: 1) why the emphasis on “for MVPs”? It seems like it can be used to build a proper product long term. Adding “for MVPs” make it seem like end users should expect to redo whatever they’ve done if they get any traction. 2)How does this compare to Retool (or how do you intend to differentiate it)?
1) It is in fact possible but as noted previously, most people still wouldn't feel comfortable running their core business long-term on this kind of tool. However, no one worries about running their business on AWS and in fact our infrastructure is on top of them (like Heroku). So we need to grow a bit more before people are OK with that :) 2) Retool is tailored at internal tools, so you can't quite customize the UX…
I agree with OP that it's a weird use case, as a focus on short-term MVP may limit user retention if you actually succeed (or is the idea that people will accidentally start to use it long term?).
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
We're about to put it online, we will have a freemium tier with a cap on performance/data/etc. Then a basic plan for $6/mo with less cap, and so on. Pro = $84/mo * all plans have unlimited editors * all plans have unlimited end users You'd only pay more if your MVP is picking up traction in exchange for more performance, but your apps always run regardless.-
That's incredibly competitive to be fair to you, the unlimited end users point is a great point of differentiation too.
If you're a coder and are willing to do an user testing interview, we'd love to chat and demo our features! You can see my email in my profile. Cheers
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#28As the creator of appshare.co I would say that this is a really nice landing page. You made it very clear, and made me try the product. Well done!
Thank you so much!! :) What aspects of the design did you find more appealing?