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Same issue, though at least the author cares more to at least think of those who whitelist scripts enough to mention it. Half the large companies today will present you with a blank screen instead of writing one line of a tag.
It's a lot about not even knowing the tag exists. I mean, who would block javascript, the whole web depends on it. (I block javascript since it came around the first time...)
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#22I had a very similar homepage that is still up! I love the desktop in a webpage aesthetic. http://toxiccode.com/
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#23This takes me back to the days when so much of web apps was tied to non-web things. Skeupomorphisms were pretty good UX, but also the fact that layouts looks like ads or newspapers, trying to conserve room and increase information density. The websites themselves weren't much in the way of a destination, rather they tied you into other real world things: family, computers systems, hobbies. They were relevant only as…
It's also become much less accessible to your average every-day person. I remember in 2001 my brother's community college in rural America taught HTML and Flash development. Not only could you learn to make websites quickly, but you were learning technology that was exactly what you would be using when working at a company. You could argue the technology is better these days, but it's certainly not more clear to newc…
The last thing I would tell him/her is to learn React to build a website. A web app sure. But not a website. Instead I would recommend going to the local community college and learn HTML/CSS (and god forbid some WordPress) and while attending community college start forming your tech circle of fellow hopeful web developers and enjoy the journey.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also become much less accessible to your average every-day person. I remember in 2001 my brother's community college in rural America taught HTML and Flash development. Not only could you learn to make websites quickly, but you were learning technology that was exactly what you would be using when working at a company. You could argue the technology is better these days, but it's certainly not more clear to newc…
I would've chalked it up to "there are layers upon layers of magical things I don't understand, I guess I only need to interact with them and slap them together." That's fine though. If someone learns C++ today without knowing any ASM very few people would tell them they're "doing it wrong". If someone learns Unreal Blueprints without learning C++ senior game developers still see them as productive game developers. I…
I might be putting words in GPs mouth, but I read the comments as 'making a swf and embedding it in a HTML file used to be good enough. Now everything is way more complicated'.
I tend to agree with GP. Flash and it's desktop counterparts Delphi etc certainly had their warts but they were much more intuitive on the wetware. Such that accountants and non professional / semipro users could use them.
We made a mistake by throwing them out, when we IMHO should have corrected them or replaced them with less warty programs that we're still using the same paradigm to be easy and intuitive to create.
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#25This takes me back to the days when so much of web apps was tied to non-web things. Skeupomorphisms were pretty good UX, but also the fact that layouts looks like ads or newspapers, trying to conserve room and increase information density. The websites themselves weren't much in the way of a destination, rather they tied you into other real world things: family, computers systems, hobbies. They were relevant only as…
It's also become much less accessible to your average every-day person. I remember in 2001 my brother's community college in rural America taught HTML and Flash development. Not only could you learn to make websites quickly, but you were learning technology that was exactly what you would be using when working at a company. You could argue the technology is better these days, but it's certainly not more clear to newc…
> learn React
IMO that's not the same. Just change Flash for JS, it's still exactly the same technology you would be using when working at a company.
Sure, there's a whole load of ~crap~ tooling built on top of JS to learn too, but I'm sure there was for Flash. It's still the same at its core.
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#26My eyes :D
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also become much less accessible to your average every-day person. I remember in 2001 my brother's community college in rural America taught HTML and Flash development. Not only could you learn to make websites quickly, but you were learning technology that was exactly what you would be using when working at a company. You could argue the technology is better these days, but it's certainly not more clear to newc…
I would've chalked it up to "there are layers upon layers of magical things I don't understand, I guess I only need to interact with them and slap them together." That's fine though. If someone learns C++ today without knowing any ASM very few people would tell them they're "doing it wrong". If someone learns Unreal Blueprints without learning C++ senior game developers still see them as productive game developers. I…
Possibly. But if you want to master your craft, you need to learn the “underlying tech.” That’s why we have computer science degrees, after all. Not all programmers have computer science degrees and in many cases, it shows. Someone who understands fundamentals is often more effective at debugging and problem solving when the s* hits the fan.
If you just want to bootcamp it without a deep-dive, that’s fine and I agree with you.
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I would've chalked it up to "there are layers upon layers of magical things I don't understand, I guess I only need to interact with them and slap them together." That's fine though. If someone learns C++ today without knowing any ASM very few people would tell them they're "doing it wrong". If someone learns Unreal Blueprints without learning C++ senior game developers still see them as productive game developers. I…
> "You have to learn the underlying tech in order to use the framework on top of it" just sounds like gatekeeping to me. Possibly. But if you want to master your craft, you need to learn the “underlying tech.” That’s why we have computer science degrees, after all. Not all programmers have computer science degrees and in many cases, it shows. Someone who understands fundamentals is often more effective at debugging a…
And it's pretty easy to host some basic HTML/CSS and even easier to just go directly with a blogging platform or something like Square Space.
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#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
I would've chalked it up to "there are layers upon layers of magical things I don't understand, I guess I only need to interact with them and slap them together." That's fine though. If someone learns C++ today without knowing any ASM very few people would tell them they're "doing it wrong". If someone learns Unreal Blueprints without learning C++ senior game developers still see them as productive game developers. I…
> "You have to learn the underlying tech in order to use the framework on top of it" just sounds like gatekeeping to me. Possibly. But if you want to master your craft, you need to learn the “underlying tech.” That’s why we have computer science degrees, after all. Not all programmers have computer science degrees and in many cases, it shows. Someone who understands fundamentals is often more effective at debugging a…
Some programmers do have computer science degrees, and in many cases it doesn't show. In my experience whether or not someone has a computer science degree is a very poor indicator of how good a developer they are.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's also become much less accessible to your average every-day person. I remember in 2001 my brother's community college in rural America taught HTML and Flash development. Not only could you learn to make websites quickly, but you were learning technology that was exactly what you would be using when working at a company. You could argue the technology is better these days, but it's certainly not more clear to newc…
I would've chalked it up to "there are layers upon layers of magical things I don't understand, I guess I only need to interact with them and slap them together." That's fine though. If someone learns C++ today without knowing any ASM very few people would tell them they're "doing it wrong". If someone learns Unreal Blueprints without learning C++ senior game developers still see them as productive game developers. I…