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Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Add more options to micropayments. Many people don't know/use bitcoin/crypto. Then your platform isn't of much use.

The problem with traditional payment methods like credit cards, visa, paypal etc is the transaction costs. You can't make a $0.01 payments unless you aggregate those. The problem with aggregation for us is the fact we would need to track the sites users visit(huge privacy problem)

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Or micropayments :) I understand the aversion to ads but content creators(journalist, musicians, artists, programmers creating oss, etc) and the web as a whole produces useful stuff, it would be good to find a business model which supports them.

For most articles, I'm lured in by the clickbait headline and then later regret wasting time on reading it. Most YouTube personalities are either undifferentiated haters or conspiracy theorists. So I'm not sure if I really want to support "content creators" in general.

"I ate a chocolate bar and regretted it, so I won't pay the shop".

Buyer's remorse doesn't make this more ethical.

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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I chose to pay and was presented with a QR code. I wondered how to use it from my phone, where I was reading the article.

I touched it... nothing. I saw there was a text code above in a box with a copy button, but nothing right there told me how to pay.

It did say that if I didn’t have. ‘Satotious’ wallet then I could get one... but I think if you’re hoping people will get themselves a wallet and use it, it might be better to optimise first for the case of not having one.

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Congrats, first of all, its always a great achievement if you launch.

I remember a discussion on why flattr did not take of. The user argumented, that micropayments are not interesting for normal content creators, cause they will only get peanuts at the end of the month. Macropayments instead, which you receive via patreon are much better. You may have a couple of supporters whos payments still might accumulate to a couple.of hundrets.

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or micropayments :) I understand the aversion to ads but content creators(journalist, musicians, artists, programmers creating oss, etc) and the web as a whole produces useful stuff, it would be good to find a business model which supports them.

For most articles, I'm lured in by the clickbait headline and then later regret wasting time on reading it. Most YouTube personalities are either undifferentiated haters or conspiracy theorists. So I'm not sure if I really want to support "content creators" in general.

The flow we are aiming for: users visit a site, they navigate a paywall and see the content is good. They add that domain to the auto-pay list. If it's clickbait, they dont. Hopefully by letting creators charge whatever amount they want, we can produce not just clickbait but well researched articles.

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Then only valid option remaining is closing the page

Or micropayments :) I understand the aversion to ads but content creators(journalist, musicians, artists, programmers creating oss, etc) and the web as a whole produces useful stuff, it would be good to find a business model which supports them.

It's interesting that Twitch has no paywalls. Users pay after consuming the content if they want to. Do you support this model as well?

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Congrats, first of all, its always a great achievement if you launch. I remember a discussion on why flattr did not take of. The user argumented, that micropayments are not interesting for normal content creators, cause they will only get peanuts at the end of the month. Macropayments instead, which you receive via patreon are much better. You may have a couple of supporters whos payments still might accumulate to a…

Well I would argue ads are micropayments, roughly an ad view is like $0.001. A model based around few users making macropayments, influencing the content that is produced, doesnt speak for everybody.

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Congrats, first of all, its always a great achievement if you launch. I remember a discussion on why flattr did not take of. The user argumented, that micropayments are not interesting for normal content creators, cause they will only get peanuts at the end of the month. Macropayments instead, which you receive via patreon are much better. You may have a couple of supporters whos payments still might accumulate to a…

Well I would argue ads are micropayments, roughly an ad view is like $0.001. A model based around few users making macropayments, influencing the content that is produced, doesnt speak for everybody.

Also, whilst the patreon style model has been successful for some, for most creators it simply isn't effective. Unfortunately, a tipping system just doesn't seem to work

Re: Show HN: Funding model for the web, users choose between ads or micropayments

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or micropayments :) I understand the aversion to ads but content creators(journalist, musicians, artists, programmers creating oss, etc) and the web as a whole produces useful stuff, it would be good to find a business model which supports them.

It's interesting that Twitch has no paywalls. Users pay after consuming the content if they want to. Do you support this model as well?

No, we are focusing on paywalls for now. There are quite a few tipping systems using bitcoin lightning if you're interested
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