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Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by peterschmidt »

bicepjai wrote: post #20

I am trying to use dstack on my device and it still asked for a login information, which prompted me to read the terms and under "User Content" I notice this ``` You hereby grant to Company an irreversible, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your Us…

The open-source library is licenced under Apache 2.0 and has not any restrictions mentioned under the terms listed on dstack.ai. However, the terms on dstack.ai which you quote also sound odd to me. Truth to be told, the current terms were generated by one of the common templates provided for startups. After we put them than, we didn't have a chance to review again. Now that you brought it up, it's certainly time to revisit them. We certainly don't want to claim rights over any of user content. The exception is probably using the published content by the website itself to show it to the users according to the user's sharing settings. Gonna review the terms and come back with an update.

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by peterschmidt »

gitgud wrote: post #12

The github README is a bit confusing to understand (for someone with no experience). The [1] landing page shows a much clearer outline on what this actually is. Seems like it could be good for making data-driven dashboard graphs. Although [2] the react library looks like it needs a bit more work. Congrats on shipping something though! [1] https://dstack.ai/ [1] https://github.com/dstackai/dstack-react

UPDATE: https://github.com/dstackai/dstack-react is outdated and was fully merged some time ago into the main repository https://github.com/dstackai/dstack. So we will delete https://github.com/dstackai/dstack-react within a week.

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by snowwrestler »

bicepjai wrote: post #20

I am trying to use dstack on my device and it still asked for a login information, which prompted me to read the terms and under "User Content" I notice this ``` You hereby grant to Company an irreversible, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your Us…

Yes, pretty common. They are intended to avoid a situation where you post your own copyrighted [1] content to their site, then sue them for displaying it without a license.

The long list makes it seem very broad, but this phrase constrains it quite a bit: "solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site." This would prevent them from using your content in an ad, or selling your content to some other company, for instance.

[1] Under U.S. federal law, all content is copyrighted upon creation. I hold the copyright on this comment, and I have granted Ycombinator a license to display it on the HN site.

EDIT - here is the relevant sentence from the HN terms of use agreement. It's actually broader than the language you quoted.

> By uploading any User Content you hereby grant and will grant Y Combinator and its affiliated companies a nonexclusive, worldwide, royalty free, fully paid up, transferable, sublicensable, perpetual, irrevocable license to copy, display, upload, perform, distribute, store, modify and otherwise use your User Content for any Y Combinator-related purpose in any form, medium or technology now known or later developed.

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by bicepjai »

snowwrestler wrote: post #23
bicepjai wrote: post #20

I am trying to use dstack on my device and it still asked for a login information, which prompted me to read the terms and under "User Content" I notice this ``` You hereby grant to Company an irreversible, nonexclusive, royalty-free and fully paid, worldwide license to reproduce, distribute, publicly display and perform, prepare derivative works of, incorporate into other works, and otherwise use and exploit your Us…

Yes, pretty common. They are intended to avoid a situation where you post your own copyrighted [1] content to their site, then sue them for displaying it without a license. The long list makes it seem very broad, but this phrase constrains it quite a bit: "solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site." This would prevent them from using your content in an ad, or selling your content to some othe…

does this apply only for contents posted on dstack data servers ?

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by peterschmidt »

bicepjai wrote: post #24
snowwrestler wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, pretty common. They are intended to avoid a situation where you post your own copyrighted [1] content to their site, then sue them for displaying it without a license. The long list makes it seem very broad, but this phrase constrains it quite a bit: "solely for the purposes of including your User Content in the Site." This would prevent them from using your content in an ad, or selling your content to some othe…

does this apply only for contents posted on dstack data servers ?

Yes, this Terms of Use covers only the use of dstack.ai (hosted version) and doesn’t cover the open-source tool.

The open-source tool is fully covered by Apache 2.0.

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by peterschmidt »

mushufasa wrote: post #25

how does this compare to dash by plotly, or r shiny, in terms of the intended use case? It looks like you are more of a wholistic platform, including a workflow scheduler etc.

One things is certainly that we would like our tool to be agnostic to data science tools and work with all of them. So you can use pretty much any visualization or ML library.

Another thing is that we’d like to eliminate the need to do any programming or HTML/CSS as much as possible.

Th jobs that are available as a part of the hosted solution is not yet part of the open-source library but this is certainly something for us to consider moving under open-source too.

We are currently at quite an early stage and a lot of work is still ahead. We’ll appreciate any feedback and suggestions on where to steer the roadmap.

Gonna work on preparing more use-case specific tutorials within coming weeks.

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by peterschmidt »

phtevus wrote: post #28

Your website theme seems to be similar to many others lately re: the cartoon figures etc. Is this a free/paid/opensource template?

The one on the website if I recall correctly was mostly designed in house. Gonna double check that with the designer. The blog post image was taken from https://icons8.com/illustrations (free). There are actually a lot of free illustration libraries nowadays. One of my favorite is https://undraw.co/

Re: Show HN: dstack – an open-source tool to build data applications easily

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Post by phtevus »

peterschmidt wrote: post #29
phtevus wrote: post #28

Your website theme seems to be similar to many others lately re: the cartoon figures etc. Is this a free/paid/opensource template?

The one on the website if I recall correctly was mostly designed in house. Gonna double check that with the designer. The blog post image was taken from https://icons8.com/illustrations (free). There are actually a lot of free illustration libraries nowadays. One of my favorite is https://undraw.co/

Thanks!
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