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Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by edjrage »

gbear605 wrote: post #17

One concern is that you can’t always trust the Wikipedia link. For example, in this edit [1] to the Equifax page, a spammer changed the link to a spam site. They’re usually fixed quickly, but it’s not guaranteed. So it’s a really neat project, but be careful about actually using it, especially for sensitive websites. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equifax&diff=9455...

True, seems pretty risky. Maybe the extension could take advantage of the edit history and warn the user about recent changes?

Edit: Unrelated to this issue, but I have a more general idea for the kinds of inputs this extension may accept. It could be an omnibox command [0] that takes the input text, passes it through some search engine with "site:wikipedia.org", visits the first result and finally grabs the URL. So you don't have to know any part of the URL - you can just type the name of the thing.

[0]: https://developer.chrome.com/extensions/omnibox

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by itaysk »

frei wrote: post #18

Pretty neat! Similarly, I often use Wikipedia to find translations for specific technical terms that aren't in bilingual dictionaries or Google Translate. If you go to a wiki page about a term, there are usually many links on the sidebar to versions in other languages, which are usually titled with the canonical term in that language.

I do this as well, I find that wikipedia is the best dictionary

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by yreg »

gbear605 wrote: post #17

One concern is that you can’t always trust the Wikipedia link. For example, in this edit [1] to the Equifax page, a spammer changed the link to a spam site. They’re usually fixed quickly, but it’s not guaranteed. So it’s a really neat project, but be careful about actually using it, especially for sensitive websites. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Equifax&diff=9455...

The user should exercise caution, but in the use cases provided (a new scihub/tpb domain) that applies regardless.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by yreg »

O_H_E wrote: post #6
leoh wrote: post #5

Nice work! Sometimes I seem to be directed to a wikipedia page as opposed to a URL. For example, with `aaronsw.idk` or `google.idk`. I wonder why that's the case?

I think it directs to the correct link when it is labeled `URL` in wiki. In the other cases the link is labeled `Website`.

Is this inconsistency intended?

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by jakear »

> If you Google "Piratebay", the first search result is a fake "thepirate-bay.org" (with a dash) but the Wikipedia article lists the right one. — shpx

How interesting. Bing doesn't do this, which leads me to believe it's not a matter of legality. Is Google simply electing to self-censor results that it'd prefer it's used not to know about? Strange move, especially given the alternative Google does index is almost definitely more nefarious.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by jonchurch_ »

jakear wrote: post #26

> If you Google "Piratebay", the first search result is a fake "thepirate-bay.org" (with a dash) but the Wikipedia article lists the right one. — shpx How interesting. Bing doesn't do this, which leads me to believe it's not a matter of legality. Is Google simply electing to self-censor results that it'd prefer it's used not to know about? Strange move, especially given the alternative Google does index is almost def…

I'm not sure how long that's been the case. The actual site at their normal domain seems to have been down for a few months, with a 522 cloudflare timeout.

I'm curious if that's the case for you as well, or if it's my ISP blocking (I wouldn't expect to see the cloudflare error if my ISP was blocking but I don't know).

I bring this up because if the site is unresponsive from wherever you're searching (or perhaps unresponsive for all, idk) then maybe it got de-ranked on google.

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by nitrogen »

frei wrote: post #18

Pretty neat! Similarly, I often use Wikipedia to find translations for specific technical terms that aren't in bilingual dictionaries or Google Translate. If you go to a wiki page about a term, there are usually many links on the sidebar to versions in other languages, which are usually titled with the canonical term in that language.

Out of curiosity, how well does Wiktionary fare in this regard?

Re: Show HN: DNS over Wikipedia

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Post by snek »

The extension has nothing to do with DNS, a more accurate name would be "autocorrect over wikipedia".

The rust server set up with dnsmasq is a legit DNS server though.

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