Always a bit frustrating to hit a pricing page and not see pricing. Please take time to provide at least some info https://rudderstack.com/pricing/
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#22Always a bit frustrating to hit a pricing page and not see pricing. Please take time to provide at least some info https://rudderstack.com/pricing/
Fair point.
We don't post pricing because we're still figuring it out (always a tricky subject for OS project). We charge a platform fee and a small per node charge (beyond 1 node) but there are many dimensions there - node size, number of nodes, etc and we haven't figured out all the combinations. The platform fee generally starts at $2k/month but we offer discounts for start ups/open source projects/non profits, etc.
Right now we more focused on growing our open-source adoptions & customers and we want to talk to our prospects to better understand this.
As a benchmark 1 node can handle ~1K events/sec.
Re: Show HN: RudderStack, open-source CDI (a.k.a. open-source Segment)
#23Bit of a novice question, but what is the point of a tool like this or Segment? I have a vague idea that they help with gathering your analytics but I am not entirely sure how. Is it like Google Tag Manager that you can use to control multiple analytics script(edit: this is a wrong comparison, I guess it is like Map function where you send all your analytics data and then it splits and send it to all relevant services where you want the data to be displayed)? Sorry for an off-topic and noob question.
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#24Bit of a novice question, but what is the point of a tool like this or Segment? I have a vague idea that they help with gathering your analytics but I am not entirely sure how. Is it like Google Tag Manager that you can use to control multiple analytics script(edit: this is a wrong comparison, I guess it is like Map function where you send all your analytics data and then it splits and send it to all relevant service…
Not at all, this is a great question and we get it all the time :)
Peter (segment's CEO) had a great answer to this in the thread https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-advantage-of-using-Segment...
TO summarize and highlight the main reasons
1) With GTM you still have to write code. Specifically, you need to figure out how to send events to a destination following their API and JS library. With Segment and Rudder, you just call a couple of generic functions identify, track, page etc.
2) You often want a copy of the events in your own S3 Or Redshift or Snowflake. GTM doesn't help you there but Rudder/Segment can.
3) We have some features like Replay etc which lets you send historic events to a new destination. Say you signed up for a new Analytics tool and want to send all your historic events - Replay helps there
4) Finally, Segment has this product called personas which lets you create audiences (e.g give me all people who have done X but not Y and then send that to MailChimp for emailing). We too are working on it.
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#25Bit of a novice question, but what is the point of a tool like this or Segment? I have a vague idea that they help with gathering your analytics but I am not entirely sure how. Is it like Google Tag Manager that you can use to control multiple analytics script(edit: this is a wrong comparison, I guess it is like Map function where you send all your analytics data and then it splits and send it to all relevant service…
Not at all, this is a great question and we get it all the time :) Peter (segment's CEO) had a great answer to this in the thread https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-advantage-of-using-Segment... TO summarize and highlight the main reasons 1) With GTM you still have to write code. Specifically, you need to figure out how to send events to a destination following their API and JS library. With Segment and Rudder, you ju…
Oh interesting. So, how do you figure out where to send which data? Like say, I want to track an event on Google Analytics where I want to see if a new user is being redirected to my site from another site based on the Referer header(no idea if this is a valid use case for GA, its just something I have implemented for one of my projects), how would rudder figure out where to send that data? Does the User have to give a list of events that they want to be sent to GA? Or do I have to specify that I want an event to be sent to GA every time I call Rudder api?
Re: Show HN: RudderStack, open-source CDI (a.k.a. open-source Segment)
#26I recently joined Mattermost, and am currently in the midst of getting us switched over from using Segment to RudderStack.
The RudderStack team has been super responsive and it's great to be able to support another open-source based business.
The biggest selling point for us is being able to maintain total control of our data with us having barely having to do more than change an endpoint. It also allows us to use one place to send all our analytics data across our various platforms and it just works.
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#27What is a "CDI"? What is "Segment"?
Yes, I could look these things up, but if you are making an announcement, it might be nice if you were clear.
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#28Earlier quoted context omitted.
Not at all, this is a great question and we get it all the time :) Peter (segment's CEO) had a great answer to this in the thread https://www.quora.com/What-is-the-advantage-of-using-Segment... TO summarize and highlight the main reasons 1) With GTM you still have to write code. Specifically, you need to figure out how to send events to a destination following their API and JS library. With Segment and Rudder, you ju…
Oh interesting. So, how do you figure out where to send which data? Like say, I want to track an event on Google Analytics where I want to see if a new user is being redirected to my site from another site based on the Referer header(no idea if this is a valid use case for GA, its just something I have implemented for one of my projects), how would rudder figure out where to send that data? Does the User have to give…
That's right. You would have to specify at a per-event level (by specifying a flat to Rudder JSON) where to forward that event.
We have something called Transformations (user defined functions) by which you can modify the event structure from the Rudder BE. You write the transformation function (currently javascript) on our UI and that gets executed in the backend on your event stream. Using the transformation, you can also control where the event goes to. This is helpful when say you want to change the destination without pushing an update to mobile app
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#29What is a "CDI"? What is "Segment"? Yes, I could look these things up, but if you are making an announcement, it might be nice if you were clear.
Customer Data Infrastructure
Re: Show HN: RudderStack, open-source CDI (a.k.a. open-source Segment)
#30What is a "CDI"? What is "Segment"? Yes, I could look these things up, but if you are making an announcement, it might be nice if you were clear.
Sorry, Customer Data Infrastructure and segment.com. A platform which makes it simple to collect event data from your apps and send it to 3rd party destinations (including dumping into your warehouse).
We wanted to give out an update from our last HN post so we didn't get into the depth of what the product is. Kind of assumed everyone knows segment but yes a fair point.