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Re: Show HN: What happens when you translate phrases too many times?

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It has started getting stuck on translations from (but not to) Chinese, Japanese, and Korean, even though the translations execute quickly when I do them in Google Translate. It happens in Chrome and Firefox. I was able to use it for several minutes before this started happening.

I made a small edit, but I reverted it. Is it fixed now?

Nope. Here's some Japanese it got stuck on:

しかし、陽気なトリックの形ではない私は、また好色そうなガラスを裁判所に請求する。ぶし刻印していますが、、、愛の威厳はニンフをアンブリング悪意に満ちた前に誇示したい、私は、この公平な割合の縮小午前、自然を装うことで機能の浮気、変形は、未完の、私の時間に、この呼吸の世界の前に送ら乏しく、半分はまた、交流したので、弱々しくと時代遅れその犬は私に樹皮私はそれらが停止になることは、なぜ、私は、この弱い配管平和の時間がない喜びは、太陽とデスカントわたし自身の変形に私の影をスパイする場合を除き、時間を離れて渡す必要があります:私は、恋人を証明することはできないため、これらの公正よく話された日を楽しませるには、それゆえに、私は決心している悪役を証明するためにそして、これらの日のアイドル快楽を利用しています

And some Korean:

하지만 미러 사랑, 나 난폭하게 찍혀 법원에 운동이나 트릭에 대한 형상에 있지 않은 내가, 그리고 당신이 당신의 폐하는 공정한 비율을 감소 무자 비한 ambling 요정 내가 전에 잘난 체하면서 사랑하는 함수를 속여서 이 세상의 호흡, 내 도착하기 전에 보낸 기형 자연, 끝나지 않은, 감추기 위해서 어디에 가난한 절반, 그리고하고 약한 밖으로 패션의 날 내가 그들을 위해 내가 그 때문에 튜브를 중지 짖는 개 나 사랑하는이 박람회의 일을 알고 증명할 수 없기 때문에, 그리고 따라서 : 평화의 짧은 시간은 태양에 내 그림자를 감시하라는 게 아니었과 내 자신의 기형에 넣어 지출 시간의 즐거움을 가지고 있지 , 그래서 제가 악역을 증명하기 위해 오전과 당시의 유휴 기쁨을 미워, 잘 구사합니다.

Here's some Persian, too:

اما من ، که هستم برای ورزش کلاهبرداری متناسب نیست ، آیا دادگاه عشق آینه ، من که هستم rudely مهر ، و می خواهند عظمت عشق را به قبل از گستاخ پوره ambling من قدم زنی با تبختر ، که هستم این نسبت عادلانه ، فریب خوردن از ویژگی های dissembling طبیعت کاهش می یابد ، تغییر شکل ، ناتمام ، فرستاده قبل از زمان من رو وارد این دنیا تنفس ، به سختی نیم شکل گرفته ، و این که تا ناشیانه و unfashionable که پوست سگ به من که من متر ' متوقف شده توسط آنها ، چرا من ، در این زمان ضعیف لوله صلح ، هیچ لذتی را هم به تصویب ، مگر آن که به جاسوسی در سایه ام خورشید و نظرات را در تغییر شکل خود من : و بنابراین ، از آنجایی که من می تواند ثابت کند عاشق به عادلانه می دانم این روزها صحبت خوب ، من مصمم هستم تا ثابت تبه کار و نفرت را با لذت از این روزها از استراحت نیست.

It's related to length. This Japanese selection worked fine:

あなたが必要がありますあなたのドリンクやあなたの売春婦を残すと、ドアの維持などを、、あなたショーウェスト以上を持ってあなたは知っておら未満を話す、なたowestはなく、ライドに行くのだより、より多くのあなたは、Setあなたthrowest未満trowest未満貸しポイントつ以上の多数。

As did this Chinese one:

比你不容多,说话比你知道不,借不到,你把所欠的,乘坐更比你走到哪里去,更比你trowest,设置比你throwest少;给你喝,你的妓女,并保持在室内,你就会有更多的两年多的几十点。

P.S. Gone to bed. Thanks for the amusement! I'm sure I'll check back tomorrow.

Re: Show HN: What happens when you translate phrases too many times?

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post #5

If you try if with just the European languages, the translation actually comes through pretty well. Adding Persian or one of the Asian languages is where things get messed up. Which means... if you want to expand your market, you could probably provide sufficient support to European countries using Google translate to communicate with customers.

In addition to what the guy above (below?) me said, it's because of the similarity of the direction and grammar of the European languages vs. Japanese, for instance, where the verb is at the end. Translation systems typically rely heavily on N-gram models, which are susceptible to these issues.

Re: Show HN: What happens when you translate phrases too many times?

#23

This is quite entertaining. In the same vein: "What Happens to a YouTube Video Uploaded 1,000 Times" ( http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/04/youtube-video-uploa... )

That's also a modern tribute to the original "I Am Sitting in a Room" by Alvin Lucier - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jfssj80oNuM Wikipedia article here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Sitting_in_a_Room

Re: Show HN: What happens when you translate phrases too many times?

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post #14
post #10

"I love you" does not lose meaning in translation.

Many simple, common SVO sentences ("I love you," "he ate a hamburger," "she killed her husband") along those lines will be translated with high fidelity. Those are the easiest case.

I got that. I was aiming for a little poetry by pointing that specific one out.
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