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Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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Post by cpursley »

todsac wrote: post #16
michaelmior wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I can run workflows for free, how are you making money?

We believe anyone should be able to run simple, low-volume workflows at no cost, sharing their workflows with the public so everyone benefits from the work of others. We also want to foster a positive community where people feel good about sharing their work and where everyone can learn from one another. In the future, we may offer features available on paid tiers which would be logical enterprise features such as si…

So basically, people are going to build on top of your service and if yall don't figure out a revenue model, you'll need to close down shop, leaving people scrambling to migrate somewhere else...

No thanks, I've been there before. You'd be better off just charging from the get-go. Otherwise, this should be 100% open source.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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Post by dylburger »

sansnomme wrote: post #13
todsac wrote: post #2

Co-founder here. We have been heads down working Pipedream for the past 9 months and are excited to share our beta with you. Pipedream is an integration platform built for developers. Develop any workflow, based on any trigger with authentication management built-in and no server or cloud resources to manage. Workflows are code, which you can run for free. The beta version includes the ability to: - Run any Node code…

Are you hosting your own serverless or using AWS?

We use AWS as a part of our backend but run our own serverless platform on top of it.

We're planning to share more about our stack in future engineering blogs, so keep an eye out for those!

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#23

Post by LyndsySimon »

cpursley wrote: post #21
todsac wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We believe anyone should be able to run simple, low-volume workflows at no cost, sharing their workflows with the public so everyone benefits from the work of others. We also want to foster a positive community where people feel good about sharing their work and where everyone can learn from one another. In the future, we may offer features available on paid tiers which would be logical enterprise features such as si…

So basically, people are going to build on top of your service and if yall don't figure out a revenue model, you'll need to close down shop, leaving people scrambling to migrate somewhere else... No thanks, I've been there before. You'd be better off just charging from the get-go. Otherwise, this should be 100% open source.

The workflows are Node.js code. If you need to transition away, building an abstraction layer for the stuff they provide that you use shouldn’t be too hard. It would be even cooler if they committed to open sourcing their implementation if they discontinue the service...

The risk here seems small.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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Post by haggy »

tmikaeld wrote: post #20

The usual question, how they monetize the service? It's answered here[1], along with limitations[2]: - 100kb max body-size. - Rate-limit at 10 requests per second - 10 seconds per execution for HTTP triggers, and 30 seconds for cron triggers - 192 MB of memory for your code and libraries during workflow execution - 512 MB of disk in the /tmp directory. [1] https://docs.pipedream.com/pricing/ [2] https://docs.pipedrea…

This isn't an answer to how they might monetize this service and quite frankly I've seen the OP/Co-Founder post their "answer" to this question on multiple other comments and it's extremely hand-wavy. I currently have little to no faith that this product isn't going to leave anyone that uses it stranded in a year or so when they have to shutdown due to lack of revenue.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

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Post by LyndsySimon »

todsac wrote: post #2

Co-founder here. We have been heads down working Pipedream for the past 9 months and are excited to share our beta with you. Pipedream is an integration platform built for developers. Develop any workflow, based on any trigger with authentication management built-in and no server or cloud resources to manage. Workflows are code, which you can run for free. The beta version includes the ability to: - Run any Node code…

This looks pretty awesome, even at this stage. I’d love the ability to write workflows in other languages (particularly Python), but understand that this seems pretty early-stage at this point and that might already be on the roadmap.

Out of curiosity, are you hiring? I’d be interested in hearing what your longer-term plans are and am looking for something new. This seems right up my alley.

ETA: I see from the article that Python is indeed coming. I’d love to be a part of that!

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#27

Post by zocuments »

todsac wrote: post #15
lukevp wrote: post #11

How's this going to be monetized? What sort of execution limits are there?

We believe anyone should be able to run simple, low-volume workflows at no cost, sharing their workflows with the public so everyone benefits from the work of others. We also want to foster a positive community where people feel good about sharing their work and where everyone can learn from one another. In the future, we may offer features available on paid tiers which would be logical enterprise features such as si…

What framework/template are you using for docs.pipedream? They look great.

PS: On Desktop, the left third of the Pricing content/copy is rendered behind the menu.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#28

Post by codezero »

cpursley wrote: post #21
todsac wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We believe anyone should be able to run simple, low-volume workflows at no cost, sharing their workflows with the public so everyone benefits from the work of others. We also want to foster a positive community where people feel good about sharing their work and where everyone can learn from one another. In the future, we may offer features available on paid tiers which would be logical enterprise features such as si…

So basically, people are going to build on top of your service and if yall don't figure out a revenue model, you'll need to close down shop, leaving people scrambling to migrate somewhere else... No thanks, I've been there before. You'd be better off just charging from the get-go. Otherwise, this should be 100% open source.

From your past experience, do you have anything constructive to tell this new team on how they can attempt to build a business without knowing the future that would make you more comfortable using it?

I ask because I see a lot of these dismissive comments on HN which end with "open source it" - and that doesn't seem like a super constructive piece of advice to a new startup team.

FWIW, at my current company, an analytics company, about five years ago, we made it clear that no matter what data we collected, if you leave the service or we shut down, we will get you all that data to take with you in a very reasonable format.

It's always risky to invest in a new service, but sometimes risks bring great rewards, and I think it's helpful if you're giving input, to try to make it constructive.

Re: Show HN: Pipedream. Develop any workflow, on any trigger, with auth and no infra

#29

Post by LyndsySimon »

todsac wrote: post #2

Co-founder here. We have been heads down working Pipedream for the past 9 months and are excited to share our beta with you. Pipedream is an integration platform built for developers. Develop any workflow, based on any trigger with authentication management built-in and no server or cloud resources to manage. Workflows are code, which you can run for free. The beta version includes the ability to: - Run any Node code…

FYI, your docs don’t display properly in Safari on iPadOS; the content is hidden behind the navigation, which doesn’t seem to be collapsible.

Here’s a screenshot to show what I mean: https://imgur.com/a/d0SjEVt

Reader view exposes the content fine, so that’s a valid workaround for now.

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