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Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by lostmymind66 »

knadh wrote: post #16
justkez wrote: post #15

Looks great! Do you have any plans to support third-party sending APIs (e.g. SES)? I see the reference to SMTP. I've been looking for a good solution for ad-hoc email campaigns (w/ templates) and for sending "systems" emails to an audience of customers . I currently look after lists on both MailChimp and EmailOctopus and get frustrated by the flat pricing for the size of the list and not how you engage with the list…

You can use SES's SMTP interface with listmonk. With some added effort, you can self-host an SMTP server and achieve better throughput, and depending on the volume, cost reduction. We've been running our own Postal SMTP instances successfully.

Are you talking about hosting your own smtp server?

The issue is that you need to put lots of effort into getting off of blacklists, or your email won't be delivered.

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by cat199 »

0xffff2 wrote: post #20
rolltiide wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If it's legitimate e-mail, I don't think it's much of an issue. starting to sound hopelessly naive you deliver email updates to fund LPs that aren't unilaterally marking you as spam for no reason

>that aren't unilaterally marking you as spam for no reason This sounds hopelessly naive to me. If the receiver marks it as spam, it's spam. By definition. Work harder to only send emails to people who want them.

Really?

Spam is unsolicited commercial email.

if I sign up on a site, click the 'yes email me' button, and then mark the email as spam when I get it, I am the one acting incorrectly, not the sender who is literally doing what I instructed them to do..

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by knadh »

samtuke wrote: post #23

phpList CEO here. Listmonk looks awesome - great to see more freedom of choice for Open Source Marketers. Not sure what SMTP setup you had with phpList, but sending 1.5m messages on a VPS should take less than a day with the right Postfix tweaks.

Hey, thanks for phpList! We were on it for the longest time, and personally, I first used it some 14 years ago.

We did try several things; Postfix tweaks, SES / Postal SMTPs, rate changes in the phpList config etc., but nothing seemed to work. This, along with the other factors (segmentation, dynamic templating), lead to listmonk.

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by fbelzile »

justkez wrote: post #15

Looks great! Do you have any plans to support third-party sending APIs (e.g. SES)? I see the reference to SMTP. I've been looking for a good solution for ad-hoc email campaigns (w/ templates) and for sending "systems" emails to an audience of customers . I currently look after lists on both MailChimp and EmailOctopus and get frustrated by the flat pricing for the size of the list and not how you engage with the list…

Check out Sendy: sendy.co

As a business that sends emails infrequently, it's probably saved me hundreds/thousands and it has good instructions to set it up with SES. One-time (ish) fee, until you need to upgrade to the next major version.

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by jonifico »

samtuke wrote: post #23

phpList CEO here. Listmonk looks awesome - great to see more freedom of choice for Open Source Marketers. Not sure what SMTP setup you had with phpList, but sending 1.5m messages on a VPS should take less than a day with the right Postfix tweaks.

Yes, agree ! We send around 700k emails / day with no issues :) thanks for Phplist!

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by jonifico »

knadh wrote: post #11

Author here. To give some context on why listmonk was built, at work (regulated financial business), we have to deliver e-mails, mostly important updates, to 1.5mn+ customers regularly. We used phpList for the longest time and then tried MailTrain and Sendy before finally deciding to reinvent the wheel after running into a number of issues, of which, a few important ones are mentioned below. - Performance. Unreasonab…

Amazing work, congratulations! I'm gonna give it a try, we have been using Phplist so far (we send like 500k daily emails).

Are you guys using returnpath' senderscore or a similar certification to send that amount of emails ?

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by johnchristopher »

knadh wrote: post #11

Author here. To give some context on why listmonk was built, at work (regulated financial business), we have to deliver e-mails, mostly important updates, to 1.5mn+ customers regularly. We used phpList for the longest time and then tried MailTrain and Sendy before finally deciding to reinvent the wheel after running into a number of issues, of which, a few important ones are mentioned below. - Performance. Unreasonab…

> - Segmentation. Often, we have to rapidly segment users by custom attributes and conditions and relay an update to them. listmonk supports SQL expressions to segment users on their attributes that are defined as arbitrary JSON maps (thanks to Postgres JSONB type).

So, is it connected to some kind of CRM ?

Re: Show HN: Listmonk – Fast self-hosted newsletter and mailing list manager

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Post by samat »

jonifico wrote: post #28
knadh wrote: post #11

Author here. To give some context on why listmonk was built, at work (regulated financial business), we have to deliver e-mails, mostly important updates, to 1.5mn+ customers regularly. We used phpList for the longest time and then tried MailTrain and Sendy before finally deciding to reinvent the wheel after running into a number of issues, of which, a few important ones are mentioned below. - Performance. Unreasonab…

Amazing work, congratulations! I'm gonna give it a try, we have been using Phplist so far (we send like 500k daily emails). Are you guys using returnpath' senderscore or a similar certification to send that amount of emails ?

Could you please elaborate on how to use returnpath to deliver large quantities of emails? Isn’t it solely informational service?
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