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Post by kowdermeister » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:40 PM UTC

xigma wrote: post #17

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It's slow because it's abusing what SVG can deliver. It's only a good warning in regards to avoid using the wrong tool for the job. If you want want 3D in the browser, then go WebGL. > It's really a sad story that HTML5 has been evangelized so strongly, yet even ten years later it can't hold a candle to Flash in many regards. Not sad at all. It needs to be evangelized more since it's clear that other solutions did no…

> We have all the features flash had now (and had it for many years now) You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about, yet you're evangelizing HTML5, that's the problem. Talk to somebody who tried to bring Video or 2D(!) animated content over from Flash to the Web. It was (and remains) a total clusterfuck. Not just because of performance but because of compatibility. Flash just worked . Web video or (god fo…

Post by kowdermeister » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:47 PM UTC

xigma wrote: post #18

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Padorn? Yeah, poor Opera mini users will suffer. https://caniuse.com/#search=webgl

The fact that a browser supports WebGL tells you nothing about which devices support it. It all depends on the GPU and its drivers, browsers have blacklists of GPUs, but even if your device is not blacklisted, it may simply screw up, especially on mobile.

Post by xigma » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:51 PM UTC

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The problem is, the right tool does not exist on the Web. WebGL doesn't have very good support, especially on mobile. That's why one would choose to use SVG. Also, just to get it to do something requires a lot more expertise and code. Would this project have worked out better on Canvas? Yes, most certainly, but some people have to find out the hard way.

> WebGL doesn't have very good support, especially on mobile. That's why one would choose to use SVG. This statement isn't even vaguely true. SVG support is quite incomplete and inconsistent across all browsers (both desktop and mobile), while Webgl has been comparatively well supported on mobile for many years (Android 4.4 lacked support; Android 9 is now out). The only issues you might have with most common webgl a…

Post by kowdermeister » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:52 PM UTC

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which is why both WebGL and Web Assembly exist This could be an interesting "worst case" polyfill.

Those don't fill the same void at all, you need tons of code to do something useful with those, all of which needs to be downloaded, compiled and executed. Show me the library using WASM/WebGL that loads as quickly as SVG or Canvas content.

Post by xigma » Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 12:54 PM UTC

shripadk wrote: post #22

xigma wrote: post #8

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The problem is, the right tool does not exist on the Web. WebGL doesn't have very good support, especially on mobile. That's why one would choose to use SVG. Also, just to get it to do something requires a lot more expertise and code. Would this project have worked out better on Canvas? Yes, most certainly, but some people have to find out the hard way.

Why does WebGL not have very good support on mobile?