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Re: Show HN: Glycemic load calculator

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Post by magic_beans »

goldenkey wrote: post #12

A little off-topic but I recently realized the cultural history of "appetizers." Most of us, myself included, are used to appetizers being a restaurant thing. But I did some digging and it appears there is a valid scientific use. "Whetting one's appetite" is useful for everyone if they want to eat healthier meals. The average person consumes _pounds_ of food daily. If you're like me, it is difficult to eat a large me…

You are a rare case. Most people love eating. Most people do not struggle to eat large amounts food. Most people actively enjoy eating large amounts of food.

No other internet forum on the world is as full of people who hate eating as HN and thinspo-gram.

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Post by mrfusion »

magic_beans wrote: post #18

Glycemic load is DRAMATICALLY affected by what you are pairing your foods with. Add fat or fiber and the GL drops. This tool isn't all that helpful.

Are you saying I could take a tablespoon of oil after a donut and it will change the glycemic load?

I have been taking a cup of Metamucil after I have a dessert with that same theory in mind. Maybe it’s been helping.

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Post by DanielBMarkham »

mrfusion wrote: post #19

I wish there was something like this to see how foods would affect insulin levels. I’ve taken to calling insulin the fat storage hormone. Surprisingly glycemic index doesn’t always correspond to insulin level rise.

There is. I heard somebody is doing an insulinogenic index.

Sorry, I don't have a link. I've been meaning to look into it but haven't had the time.

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Post by ucaetano »

ruc0la wrote: post #16

I was wondering: can you really take out from the equation the bodyweight/fit level/age variables? I'm heavy and also very tall and it seems to me an over simplified service using only a macro sheet of products.

No. And even if you take in account those factors, the resulting number is irrelevant on an individual basis due to huge variation between individuals.

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Post by woodandsteel »

jl2718 wrote: post #17

These numbers are completely meaningless for nutrition purposes, and should be generally ignored and replaced with much simpler metrics like CHO digestion half-life. Glucose levels are increased by digestion/conversion of CHO, and decreased by the effect of insulin. Different types of CHO digest slower(fiber), get into the blood stream faster (glucose) or release more insulin (fructose). A low glycemic load could mea…

Question: is what you are saying widely accepted by the experts who study human digestion, metabolism, and appetite, or is it a minority view?

On a more anecdotal level, I don't find that eating apples makes me hungry shortly afterwards.

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Post by mrfusion »

DanielBMarkham wrote: post #23
mrfusion wrote: post #19

I wish there was something like this to see how foods would affect insulin levels. I’ve taken to calling insulin the fat storage hormone. Surprisingly glycemic index doesn’t always correspond to insulin level rise.

There is. I heard somebody is doing an insulinogenic index. Sorry, I don't have a link. I've been meaning to look into it but haven't had the time.

Here’s a start. And it’s intersting reading. https://optimisingnutrition.com/tag/insulinogenic-foods/

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Post by barftransit »

jl2718 wrote: post #17

These numbers are completely meaningless for nutrition purposes, and should be generally ignored and replaced with much simpler metrics like CHO digestion half-life. Glucose levels are increased by digestion/conversion of CHO, and decreased by the effect of insulin. Different types of CHO digest slower(fiber), get into the blood stream faster (glucose) or release more insulin (fructose). A low glycemic load could mea…

Fructose does not spike insulin.

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Post by robbiep »

woodandsteel wrote: post #25
jl2718 wrote: post #17

These numbers are completely meaningless for nutrition purposes, and should be generally ignored and replaced with much simpler metrics like CHO digestion half-life. Glucose levels are increased by digestion/conversion of CHO, and decreased by the effect of insulin. Different types of CHO digest slower(fiber), get into the blood stream faster (glucose) or release more insulin (fructose). A low glycemic load could mea…

Question: is what you are saying widely accepted by the experts who study human digestion, metabolism, and appetite, or is it a minority view? On a more anecdotal level, I don't find that eating apples makes me hungry shortly afterwards.

I studied medicine at the university that created and trademarked he glycaemic Index (GI). Prof Brand-Miller gave us lectures in physiology and nutrition. Even as she was giving them there was an understanding in the cohort that GI was flawed. for example, a high fructose meal is extremely low GI but that says nothing about either it’s nutritional value or how it will affect your bosy’s insulin response, which when you get down to it is the key focus of this flawed measure.

The defence proffered by faculty (who had a vested interest in promoting it) was weak in our eyes and has only grown weaker over time

Re: Show HN: Glycemic load calculator

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Post by jsmp »

magic_beans wrote: post #20
harigov wrote: post #10

Are you sure this data is correct? It shows that boiled brown rice has a glycemic load higher than white rice.

There are a wide variety of rice types, and YES, some white rice varieties have a lower glycemic index than brown rice varieties.

also boiled rice absorb more water, this weight includes that water
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