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Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by iEchoic »

scoggs wrote: post #16
iEchoic wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Definitely - our first version had a lot of white, and also a lot of feedback asking us to make it not-white.

Sounds like a decent opportunity to provide a user option for light or dark themes in their user settings? Maybe even a middle ground grey theme as well?

Yeah, agreed. I'd like to have more customization options in the future, including themes like that. To keep the scope small enough to make this launchable, it didn't make the cut, but we'll definitely be revisiting that.

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by iEchoic »

fixmycode wrote: post #19

looks fantastic! I would love a version of this but for board game groups, but right now, I will organize my Civilization group with it

We've been getting quite a few requests for board game groups lately. I hadn't considered that initially, but I think that's a pretty natural extension that I could see us adding soon. Thanks :)

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by Djvacto »

So, I went in and tested it out, and it seems like certain games can't be added. Do you manually choose which games to support? If so, what do you do when a group/user wants to add a game that isn't in there? It seems like if someone sees one of their games isn't supported, if it's their primary game, they might just not use the service.

Are you looking into a way to let users add "Custom" games, or request support for a game?

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by iEchoic »

Djvacto wrote: post #23

So, I went in and tested it out, and it seems like certain games can't be added. Do you manually choose which games to support? If so, what do you do when a group/user wants to add a game that isn't in there? It seems like if someone sees one of their games isn't supported, if it's their primary game, they might just not use the service. Are you looking into a way to let users add "Custom" games, or request support f…

Yeah, we manually choose games to support right now. It was a goal from the beginning to make it feel like you're immersed into your game's environment as soon as you create a team, which requires us to have metadata and assets for the given games. We do get feedback from users requesting games, and we have analytics on what people type into the game suggestions box, so we tend to pick up games that we're missing pretty quickly. I can see adding "custom" games in the future (similar to how Twitch eventually opened up to IRL-style streams), but probably not soon.

It's a bit of a tradeoff: like you mentioned, this does cause some users to leave when they see that their game isn't available. On the other hand, it does allow us to focus on building a really good experience for the games we support.

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by kamac »

I've seen it before and I think it looks slick. I have one suggestion or maybe observation. Finding a team currently requires to manually apply by browsing through the list. Whenever I see a team with one member inside (and that's how many teams look loke), I don't feel like applying, because there's got to be something off about it, right? So I don't apply. And then, there's this thing where I would have to apply to several teams at once, which makes me kind of uncomfortable.

Do you have any plans for automating this process? Tinder for team finding, maybe? (:

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by 2474 »

iEchoic wrote: post #13
zaptheimpaler wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This looks really cool! This is not super related to your business, but do you have any recommendations for how to get started with frontend dev as a beginner? I usually do backend/infra stuff, and the frontend world is overwhelming - particularly CSS. Do you have any tips on the best way to learn CSS? And do you think using React + MobX allows faster dev compared to vanilla javascript?

Thanks! I think the best way to get started right now is to grab the official Facebook create-react-app package, pick something you think would be fun to build, and just start trying to build it and googling/asking questions along the way. The first project might suck, but that's okay. You'll pick it up fast, and the next will be better. React + MobX is my favorite way to build frontend apps now, and MobX does help a…

To add to this. For beginners it can be a pain to learn how to set your environment up to even begin developing.

https://codepen.io/ is a great place for front-end developers to hone their skills without having to worry about any of the setup.

You can use Pug (formerly Jade), Haml, Markdown, Slim, SCSS, Sass, LESS, PostCSS, Stylus, Coffeescript, Typescript, Livescript, Babel, or just plain HTML, CSS and JS without having to set up a thing.

Edit: I'm not affiliated with Codepen. I am however a user.

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by iEchoic »

kamac wrote: post #25

I've seen it before and I think it looks slick. I have one suggestion or maybe observation. Finding a team currently requires to manually apply by browsing through the list. Whenever I see a team with one member inside (and that's how many teams look loke), I don't feel like applying, because there's got to be something off about it, right? So I don't apply. And then, there's this thing where I would have to apply to…

Yes! This launch was focused on the foundational team tools, but making it easier for players to find teams is already in the works. I think we can have an experience where all the teams you see are active high-quality teams, are tailored to you, and the process is more automated and less manual. This is something that no gaming product has gotten right yet, in my opinion.

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by 2474 »

iEchoic wrote: post #24
Djvacto wrote: post #23

So, I went in and tested it out, and it seems like certain games can't be added. Do you manually choose which games to support? If so, what do you do when a group/user wants to add a game that isn't in there? It seems like if someone sees one of their games isn't supported, if it's their primary game, they might just not use the service. Are you looking into a way to let users add "Custom" games, or request support f…

Yeah, we manually choose games to support right now. It was a goal from the beginning to make it feel like you're immersed into your game's environment as soon as you create a team, which requires us to have metadata and assets for the given games. We do get feedback from users requesting games, and we have analytics on what people type into the game suggestions box, so we tend to pick up games that we're missing pre…

Could you allow users to submit a game? If a user is interesting enough in using your system and having your game in the system, perhaps they would be willing to do the work to gather all the required information.

Obviously it would need review by your team, for various reasons, but it might be a viable way to get new games in the system faster, without being too much of a burden to the team.

Re: Show HN: Guilded – build and organize online gaming teams

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Post by Djvacto »

iEchoic wrote: post #24
Djvacto wrote: post #23

So, I went in and tested it out, and it seems like certain games can't be added. Do you manually choose which games to support? If so, what do you do when a group/user wants to add a game that isn't in there? It seems like if someone sees one of their games isn't supported, if it's their primary game, they might just not use the service. Are you looking into a way to let users add "Custom" games, or request support f…

Yeah, we manually choose games to support right now. It was a goal from the beginning to make it feel like you're immersed into your game's environment as soon as you create a team, which requires us to have metadata and assets for the given games. We do get feedback from users requesting games, and we have analytics on what people type into the game suggestions box, so we tend to pick up games that we're missing pre…

This makes sense! How will you evaluate whether a game is worth adding? Example: I went to add King Arthur's Gold, which is a mostly dead game (usually about 4-6 servers with population at a time). However, for my use case all I truly would look for it is in the scheduling thing. Can you add custom events/items to the "Home" Calendar regardless of the game? Like one not associated with one of the team's games on the sidebar?
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