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Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by ToyToyTotsToy »

melling wrote: post #12
gregmac wrote: post #8

I don't mean to diminish the work done here, but I can't bring myself to use any home automation that relies on internet and 3rd party services. The whole "I can't turn off my lights/adjust my thermostat/close my garage door because the internet is down" is a cliche these days, but also reality when you use services like these. There's a difference between core and nice to have services (eg, ability to tell you the w…

I guess if it doesn’t work for you, you should skip the thread so as not to drown out the effort. Someday someone might come along and build the thing you want. Perhaps they will build on this project.

This isn't a Rube Goldberg fan club forum or sub-reddit, so the criticism is not only welcome but highly deserved.

See? It checks all the nonsense boxes!

* Garbage hardware - ikea, works in the home AND the landfill! * "Home automation" - barely automating the lights, barely happening in the home * NodeJS - because it's the -cool- thing to do these days, despite being trash * IFTTT - How many third-parties can we invoke? * Google Assistant - How much data can we give Google?

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by gh02t »

Eridrus wrote: post #17
gregmac wrote: post #8

I don't mean to diminish the work done here, but I can't bring myself to use any home automation that relies on internet and 3rd party services. The whole "I can't turn off my lights/adjust my thermostat/close my garage door because the internet is down" is a cliche these days, but also reality when you use services like these. There's a difference between core and nice to have services (eg, ability to tell you the w…

Every smart bulb I've seen has a fallback where toggling the light switch turns it on, even if the software state was off. 3rd party services going away is a legitimate concern, but that's true of basically every piece of technology these days.

People seem to miss that Hue and Tradfri both have local APIs too (http and CoAP based), they work without an Internet connection. The bulbs themselves are ZHA compatible as well, you can pair them with your own controllers instead of the gateway.

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by ToyToyTotsToy »

kuschku wrote: post #4

One of the most amazing things about TRÅDFRI is that it’s actually well-designed. The software is minimalistic, and designed for security by default, it’s fault-tolerant, and it’s local by default. A massive contrast to the silicon-valley node.js on each lightbulb products, reliant on cloud servers, with analytics everywhere; or the cheap chinese unsecured lightbulbs that are just days after purchase infected with Mi…

They're so amazing that someone felt the need to poison them with more nodejs garbage. Yay!

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by tritium »

gregmac wrote: post #8

I don't mean to diminish the work done here, but I can't bring myself to use any home automation that relies on internet and 3rd party services. The whole "I can't turn off my lights/adjust my thermostat/close my garage door because the internet is down" is a cliche these days, but also reality when you use services like these. There's a difference between core and nice to have services (eg, ability to tell you the w…

The problem with this type of system is that the primary benefit is outnumbered by at least two unwanted detriments.

The primary benefit is that remote control can be effective from around the world and outer space.

This is countered by the reality that your command might get bounced off a satellite, even if you’re across the room from the device you’re controlling remotely.

The converse additional problem is that you could be standing next to a device on the north pole, and someone from antarctica could override you.

We haven’t become sophisticated enough about this level of remote control yet, to mitigate these undesirable side effects of extended range remoting via internet tunnels.

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by TomMarius »

oulipo wrote: post #13
gregmac wrote: post #8

I don't mean to diminish the work done here, but I can't bring myself to use any home automation that relies on internet and 3rd party services. The whole "I can't turn off my lights/adjust my thermostat/close my garage door because the internet is down" is a cliche these days, but also reality when you use services like these. There's a difference between core and nice to have services (eg, ability to tell you the w…

Hi! I'm the co-founder of https://snips.ai and we build a 100% on-device Voice AI platform. The ASR and NLU are running on a Raspberry Pi 3, and best of all it is free and we are open-sourcing it, starting with the NLU https://github.com/snipsco/snips-nlu https://medium.com/snips-ai/snips-nlu-is-an-open-source-priv... The whole platform runs on-device which makes it ideal for privacy, cost, and to allow it to run whe…

Is there any way to help you with Euro languages? I'd gladly help you with Czech, it's hard to get right.

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by oulipo »

TomMarius wrote: post #25
oulipo wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Hi! I'm the co-founder of https://snips.ai and we build a 100% on-device Voice AI platform. The ASR and NLU are running on a Raspberry Pi 3, and best of all it is free and we are open-sourcing it, starting with the NLU https://github.com/snipsco/snips-nlu https://medium.com/snips-ai/snips-nlu-is-an-open-source-priv... The whole platform runs on-device which makes it ideal for privacy, cost, and to allow it to run whe…

Is there any way to help you with Euro languages? I'd gladly help you with Czech, it's hard to get right.

We will be working on this too, probably this year

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by gingerlime »

oulipo wrote: post #14
brianjking wrote: post #2

Nice. I use Home Assistant for my Home Automation setup. https://home-assistant.io/ [Over 1,000 components]( https://home-assistant.io/components/ ) are available with more added daily, including [IKEA Tradfri lights]( https://home-assistant.io/components/tradfri/ ). My Home Assistant config files can be found at https://github.com/brianjking/homeassistant-config if you're interested. Cheers!

If you are using Home Assistant and you want a free, open-source and 100% on-device solution to build a Voice AI you can take a look at what we build at Snips https://snips.ai You can build your Voice AI in English, French, German, and soon Japanese and Korean, with more European languages coming It runs on a Raspberry Pi 3 and will be 100% free for makers

Perhaps I didn't search well enough, but is there a way to buy a ready-made snips device? Like I would buy an Amazon Echo?

I'd be keen to use something like Snips instead of Alexa, but I'm not too sure I have the time and energy to solder things, or even just attach wires to some connector... Or even just figure out which part to order from where... And I already have a pi3 running Home Assistant.

To me this is the biggest barrier of entry.

The 2nd one (which is the same pretty much), is convincing my wife to replace this thing[0] with this thing[1], and also preventing my 4 year old from messing with the wires...

[0] http://d2ydh70d4b5xgv.cloudfront.net/images/e/1/new-echo-dot...

[1] https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/660238369_640.jpg

(please don't take it the wrong way, I really want Snips to win over proprietary cloud-based solutions)

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by oulipo »

ReverseCold wrote: post #18
oulipo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using Home Assistant and you want a free, open-source and 100% on-device solution to build a Voice AI you can take a look at what we build at Snips https://snips.ai You can build your Voice AI in English, French, German, and soon Japanese and Korean, with more European languages coming It runs on a Raspberry Pi 3 and will be 100% free for makers

That's really cool. With the way voice assistants work these days (memorize these sentences, when you say them stuff will happen) along with the fact that people only use a few functions of their voice activated products, it makes a lot of sense to be able to pick and choose which commands to enable. It also has the added benefit of being local/private/on-device. I will definitely be using this for a project or two.

Awesome, we would love to see what you make with it, come see us on our Discord channel to talk and ask any question you have, and if you are using it in your home or to build cool interactions we would love to feature it on our site!

Re: Show HN: Control IKEA Lights Using Google Home and IFTTT

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Post by oulipo »

gingerlime wrote: post #27
oulipo wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you are using Home Assistant and you want a free, open-source and 100% on-device solution to build a Voice AI you can take a look at what we build at Snips https://snips.ai You can build your Voice AI in English, French, German, and soon Japanese and Korean, with more European languages coming It runs on a Raspberry Pi 3 and will be 100% free for makers

Perhaps I didn't search well enough, but is there a way to buy a ready-made snips device? Like I would buy an Amazon Echo? I'd be keen to use something like Snips instead of Alexa, but I'm not too sure I have the time and energy to solder things, or even just attach wires to some connector... Or even just figure out which part to order from where... And I already have a pi3 running Home Assistant. To me this is the b…

We are working on this! You can buy any Raspberry Pi 3 and we have tutorials to show common hardware to use, but soon there will be a maker kit you can get from us too!

We recommend a Raspberry Pi 3 and a ReSpeaker2 microphone there is a list of materials you can find on this blog post, and please subscribe to our newsletter to learn about the kit

https://medium.com/snips-ai/building-a-voice-controlled-home...

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