For someone who's not at all in touch or in synch with all this, why should I install it? What is the value proposition? Just to send money to other people in an ideologically pure way?
Show HN: Cipher – Mobile Ethereum Web3 DApp Browser
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#22I really feel like the #1 problem for all crypto stuff is that it is completely unapproachable without having to learn a massive amount of new terms/vocabulary. Look at this description: "The Power of Ethereum in the Palm of Your Hand Cipher Browser is the world's first full-featured mobile dapp browser and wallet for the Ethereum blockchain. Cipher allows you to interact with dapps powered by Ethereum on your mobile…
I think ethereal deliberately uses such fancy talk to wow people into buying ETH and pumping the value.
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#23I really feel like the #1 problem for all crypto stuff is that it is completely unapproachable without having to learn a massive amount of new terms/vocabulary. Look at this description: "The Power of Ethereum in the Palm of Your Hand Cipher Browser is the world's first full-featured mobile dapp browser and wallet for the Ethereum blockchain. Cipher allows you to interact with dapps powered by Ethereum on your mobile…
Dapp just means distributed app[lication]
Blockchains, distributed networks and especially the Ethereum community have called themselves web 3.0 and their primary javascript object to access web 3.0 functions is called web3
Think of the Ethereum network as a bunch of docker containers (nodes) that will execute random functions you throw at it and assume thats a good idea but either way you have to send ether for them to do it
Ether is a limited resource so therefore it has value because other people want to use it too. Ether is the gas on the ethereum network, and you have to use it as fuel to execute functions.
Still with me?
Okay great, before now it has been much more cumbersome to use any of this, and now you can do it from a mobile device
Erc20 is a standardized set of functions that make it easier to use the docker containers, it is the 20th one described and it caught on. This is analogous to REST protocols being made from a mere description in IETF RFCs. This particular standard primarily allows for the creation of new tokens. With this protocol, The docker containers will recognize the new unit of account and also execute the transfer functions to other Ethereum users. This works For all intents and purposes
Ethereum has been called the World Computer for these reasons
Re: Show HN: Cipher – Mobile Ethereum Web3 DApp Browser
#24For someone who's not at all in touch or in synch with all this, why should I install it? What is the value proposition? Just to send money to other people in an ideologically pure way?
> Just to send money to other people in an ideologically pure way?
Ha. Never seen that put that way before, but sure.
But aside from just the currency aspect of it, blockchain protocols that support distributed apps (dapps) or smart contracts also allow for programs to be run on the blockchain; a sort of distributed computing network. This app, aside from wallet/currency functions, appears to also allow you to interact with these distributed apps and see their state.
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#25Erm, who made this and why should I trust it? Wallet apps need a lot of trust behind them, more than a normal app. It could be really well made and still run off with my money if they're malicious or just implemented the crypto wrong.
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#26I really feel like the #1 problem for all crypto stuff is that it is completely unapproachable without having to learn a massive amount of new terms/vocabulary. Look at this description: "The Power of Ethereum in the Palm of Your Hand Cipher Browser is the world's first full-featured mobile dapp browser and wallet for the Ethereum blockchain. Cipher allows you to interact with dapps powered by Ethereum on your mobile…
It's actually the #1 benefit not the problem. It's not ready for the layman yet.
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#27Can’t get used to those iPhoneX screens. Still look awful to me. Congrats on the work though. A major item for becoming a successful anything is having a large community. Broadening access to the technology helps a lot to achieve it. US AppStore only it seems. Or at least not in NL.
Thanks! It should be available on every store except China (Apple didn't allow). Search for "Cipher Ethereum".
That worked. Strange, normally links as on your FP redirect to the right app store (region).
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#28Erm, who made this and why should I trust it? Wallet apps need a lot of trust behind them, more than a normal app. It could be really well made and still run off with my money if they're malicious or just implemented the crypto wrong.
If that's really what I wanted, there are many much easier ways than making a full app, such as writing a lame whitepaper and doing a scam ICO. You will see a lot of open-source code from Cipher soon, hopefully that puts your mind at ease.
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#29I use multiple devices, will it be possible to have two installs synced together? For some reason I had some difficulty with this on Status.
Yes, use the same recovery phrase. I wouldn't recommend making transactions simultaneously on multiple devices though.
Why? They would be separate transactions on Blockchain
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Yes, use the same recovery phrase. I wouldn't recommend making transactions simultaneously on multiple devices though.
Why? They would be separate transactions on Blockchain
Ethereum is different from Bitcoin in that it uses simple account balances, which are easier to deal with in smart contracts. To prevent replay attacks, each account has a nonce, which is included in the transaction.
You can check the blockchain for the current nonce of an account, but if you sent from the same account simultaneously from two devices, both transactions would get the same nonce and one would fail.