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Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Post by detaro »

rsoto wrote: post #20
andrewchambers wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before you select the one you like. And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.

Ok, why pay for a deliverable I might not be legally allowed to use, or might be associated with unknown follow-on costs to aquire that right? They are obtaining third-party resources somewhere, they would be in an excellent position to provide relevant documentation.

Unless I'm missing it in the terms, the user isn't even clearly allowed to use their designs as the basis of a known-safe design, since they don't explicitly permit changes to it?

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Post by BMorearty »

andrewchambers wrote: post #16
esquivalience wrote: post #5

Fantastic concept! But I'm completely turned off by the IP terms ([1] below). This suggests LogoFox is pushing icons without doing IP checks, and selling them as finished logo designs without any assurance that the user won't get sued because of this. Don't take this as negative feedback, but as a tip to re-think the legal side approach. Better would be that you (a) you do some copyright checks and your terms state w…

Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

Really? You're paying for logo creation. Due diligence is different and likely more costly. I see no problem with the current model because it provides a useful service for a fee. Just because it doesn't provide a more useful service for a larger fee doesn't make it useless.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Post by djsumdog »

hitgeek wrote: post #10

the pricing seems high for this service. $30 for a computer generated logo. $990 for a professionally designed logo. I'm pretty sure you can get a computer generated logo for free from a variety of services, and professional logos for much less than $990. The UX on the site isn't great, so I wouldn't really pay for a premium service.

If I need a terrible logo, I use http://www.horriblelogos.com/

They're horrible and only $5

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Post by debaserab2 »

rsoto wrote: post #20
andrewchambers wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before you select the one you like. And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.

> And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.

Which makes this way more expensive than a normal logo created by an actual artist.

If I contract someone to make me a logo, I can normally safely assume there won’t be lingering IP issues after I have the deliverable.

Re: Show HN: LogoFox – fast logo maker

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

rsoto wrote: post #20
andrewchambers wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Agreed, If I paid for this service, I would expect them to do that sort of due diligence. Otherwise what am I paying for?

> what am I paying for? A logo? Remove the automatic part and focus just on the deliverable; whether it's made by a computer or by a human, what you get is a few concepts before you select the one you like. And then you go with a lawyer to protect your IP.

If you pay a logo designer, you will not have that assurance either.

It is literally impossible to vet an idea / logo / website name, before you even have it.

First you design, then you apply for protection.

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