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Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by cocktailpeanuts »

nodesocket wrote: post #8
relics443 wrote: post #6

On their website [1], they make it look like WhatsApp, Slack, and Instagram are all using their service, when in reality it's their own implementation of "similar" services. Seems fishy. [1] https://www.cloudboost.io/

While true, I think you're nit-picking. They've clearly put a ton of effort into the project (code, docs, website), why is there something fishy or malicious?

I agree with this. It clearly says "Checkout the world's most popular apps rebuilt on CloudBoost".

It would rather be a disservice to users if they obscured these projects by getting rid of those icons.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by nawazdhandala »

relics443 wrote: post #6

On their website [1], they make it look like WhatsApp, Slack, and Instagram are all using their service, when in reality it's their own implementation of "similar" services. Seems fishy. [1] https://www.cloudboost.io/

This is fixed. Thank you again for your feedback.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by duncanawoods »

Gys wrote: post #19

'We use AI to build exceptional apps for you.' Can you elaborate on how you use AI to build my apps ? I have a hard time imagining this.

The definition of AI these days is "any activity performed on or near a computer"...

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by nawazdhandala »

cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #21
nodesocket wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While true, I think you're nit-picking. They've clearly put a ton of effort into the project (code, docs, website), why is there something fishy or malicious?

I agree with this. It clearly says "Checkout the world's most popular apps rebuilt on CloudBoost". It would rather be a disservice to users if they obscured these projects by getting rid of those icons.

It said "Checkout the world's most popular apps built on CloudBoost" before. We just fixed it.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by sapeien »

I think the nuances of the offering are not entirely clear from the marketing website, so here's what I've interpreted.

The product itself seems to be a Node.js framework that glues together various modules, including popular ones such as Express, Mongoose, & Socket.io. How they monetize it is via consulting and hosting, which they offer a fixed price for "unlimited" bandwidth and storage (very unclear how they may throttle this). The pricing is also exceptionally poor, a fast HTTP implementation may respond to 250k requests per second vs a month, and 5 GB of storage for $50 a month...

They seem to not have any sort of release strategy and the readme states to clone their repository. It would require pulling from their repo to update it as a dependency. There are also absolutely no tests, so you don't know if the latest commit is working or contains some work in progress or not. The signup process seems to be needlessly difficult, one needs to manually craft an HTTP request to some endpoint with some payload.

The "AI to build exceptional apps" pitch is vague. I can think of some possible cases such as automatic indexing based on querying patterns, but this is just speculative. I wouldn't trust it unless I know what it does.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by nawazdhandala »

nodesocket wrote: post #10

CloudBoost looks amazing. I can tell they've put a ton of effort into the app, docs, and website. This brings me to their problem... Pricing! Their pricing ( https://www.cloudboost.io/pricing ) makes little to zero sense. First it is priced too low, a sign of future problems ahead. Second, I think they've got the entire model wrong. They should charge for bundles of API calls and GB of storage. Pay for what you use l…

I'm Nawaz from CloudBoost. 100% agree. The idea was when you reach a $99 plan, we install CloudBoost on your own Cloud. But a pay as you go service makes a lot more sense. If you want to install the service on your own machine, you can always check out our enterprise / open source options.

Thank you for your feedback again. This helped a lot.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by nawazdhandala »

sapeien wrote: post #25

I think the nuances of the offering are not entirely clear from the marketing website, so here's what I've interpreted. The product itself seems to be a Node.js framework that glues together various modules, including popular ones such as Express, Mongoose, & Socket.io. How they monetize it is via consulting and hosting, which they offer a fixed price for "unlimited" bandwidth and storage (very unclear how they may t…

Disclosure: I'm Nawaz from the CloudBoost team.

- Yes, it does bundle frameworks but more importantly, it bundles databases like Mongo, Elastic, Redis etc. The idea is we completely abstract databases away from you and give you an API which does everything. We handle the rest like data sync between these databases, managing databases, scaling, etc.

- We're on a "Pay as you go pricing". Let me know your thoughts on this.

- I completely agree, we dont have a release strategy and we need to work on it. You'll see GitHub releases every week within few weeks from now. Thank you for the feedback.

- We have a Docker implementation which will make your sign up process easier. Please check : https://github.com/cloudboost/docker

- One of the visions of the product is to learn how your app uses the service and how your app queries the db - and auto optimize data between databases, so you never have to think about storing your data in different types of databases ever again.

Re: Show HN: CloudBoost – Open-Source Parse, Firebase and Algolia Combined into One

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Post by nawazdhandala »

Sphax wrote: post #20
nawazdhandala wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Algolia is technically an ElasticSearch wrapper. We are too. :)

That is not true https://stackshare.io/posts/how-algolia-built-their-realtime...

You're right. Their API looks awfully similar to ES though.
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