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Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Would be nice if there were a couple of example bots that you could try talking to/see some info about before creating an account.

David from Motion AI here. Definitely agree! We are building out our Bot Store which will be a great way to sample a wide range of bots.

Any thoughts on XMPP?

A sandbox server that allows developers to connect through pidgin would be a great way test their bots in real-time.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Do the bots speak English only or can users train them easily to talk with customers in other languages?

Most of what I've seen is in English but there are some second-level services popping up that promise an API for chatbot translation, e.g. Cyrano (http://cyrano.unbabel.com/).

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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This whole 'bot renaissance makes me think that somewhere 1000s of old IRC Channel admins are raising their hands in despair, and quickly shuffling through countless CD-Rs of old TCL and Perl code to see if they have something worth re-releasing. Granted, the natural language stuff is way better than it was, but the current bot platforms that are springing up everywhere are nothing more than a language parser and an…

My main concern is that this whole situation will not include only chat bots but it will also trigger a demand for crawling bots which could put a lot of stress on web sites. Then sites could adopt aggressive captcha schemes which will hammer usability and make the life of legitimate crawlers a lot more difficult. It’s a lose-lose situation , until the industry comes into its senses and realize this whole thing is a fad.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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This whole 'bot renaissance makes me think that somewhere 1000s of old IRC Channel admins are raising their hands in despair, and quickly shuffling through countless CD-Rs of old TCL and Perl code to see if they have something worth re-releasing. Granted, the natural language stuff is way better than it was, but the current bot platforms that are springing up everywhere are nothing more than a language parser and an…

My main concern is that this whole situation will not include only chat bots but it will also trigger a demand for crawling bots which could put a lot of stress on web sites. Then sites could adopt aggressive captcha schemes which will hammer usability and make the life of legitimate crawlers a lot more difficult. It’s a lose-lose situation , until the industry comes into its senses and realize this whole thing is a…

That and - assuming new crawlers will even bother to respect robots.txt - this may screw up the archive.org's work even more.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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This whole 'bot renaissance makes me think that somewhere 1000s of old IRC Channel admins are raising their hands in despair, and quickly shuffling through countless CD-Rs of old TCL and Perl code to see if they have something worth re-releasing. Granted, the natural language stuff is way better than it was, but the current bot platforms that are springing up everywhere are nothing more than a language parser and an…

Many people got into programming because owning an IRC bot was considered cool and they wanted to code their own bots.

Now it will most definitely be considered uncool - since with tools like this one, every man and their dog will be able to get one.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Bots are broken as a platform. No advertising, no payments system, developers have to pay for hosting, there's no discovery mechanism because the messengers don't have bot stores... Why would developers be interested?

> Why would developers be interested?

For exactly the reasons you mentioned.

Now what would business folks be interested? That's another question.

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Super cool concept to make this more accessible. Has anyone deployed this platform is a customer service enviroment? And if so how'd it go?

The platform is only hours old in terms of public availability, but here's a pretty cool customer service demo bot that scans a knowledgebase first, but can create a helpdesk ticket if human assistance is required: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9IMsJW4ca0

Maybe I'm missing something, but can't a normal website do all that?

Or is the idea that you can feed message-only channels like email and Facebook messanger to it? But then you could just say "We don't really provide email support; see our website here: ..."

Kind of feels like using telephone menus when you don't have to.

(Nothing against your platform though - it looks very well done!)

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Replace "bots" with "internet" and this could have been a quote lifted from a circa-1995 Microsoft strategy meeting

Bots are closer to a CLI than a GUI, that is the core issue with discovery.

I don't understand the discovery comment. I don't discover Bob the copier salesman. I decide I need a copier, search for copier retailers and then give Bob a call. Won't bots work the same way?

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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I got an idea the last time I saw this discussed, which probably will make some present HN people rich:

Bots which follow your own conversations/emails/etc, read the comments from other people -- and in another window suggest jokes, information, links etc based on parsed language. Just click to add the suggested answer.

You could install modules to see suggestions from e.g. a stand up comedian, some experts for different topics or just the wikipedia pages for all mentioned non-trivial concepts, etc.

A bot could e.g. help with fixing grammar errors.

Everyone can be their own Woody Allen -- or get help to write as a depressive persona. Or as a Romeo. :-)

Re: Show HN: Chatbots made easy – Build, train, and deploy bots

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Bots are closer to a CLI than a GUI, that is the core issue with discovery.

I don't understand the discovery comment. I don't discover Bob the copier salesman. I decide I need a copier, search for copier retailers and then give Bob a call. Won't bots work the same way?

Depends on which vision wins out. The phone handset vendors certainly have a leg up on being the "discovery" part, deciding which copier retailers you get exposed to.
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