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Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by ejjpi » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 10:18 AM UTC

jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

Thanks for your constructive feedback. We are still under active development and we are rolling out new features every week. Although analogy with PCPartPicker was inevitable, I'd like to say we're not aiming on being its clone, we're not providing price comparison and they are already doing a great job providing extensive compatibility checks so there's no point wasting time reproducing what is already available. Pangoly provides preconfigured builds with full compatibility checks that may satisfy most of the people needs (having the ability to also remove/add extra components) and it has a lot of useful features that noone else already provides. I agree with you for the "lack of reviews" part, we'll sort that out soon enough. Stay tuned!

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by clarry » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 10:29 AM UTC

I really really hate browsing shops and reviews and manufacturer sites and all that, trying to find the build I want.. so a website to help with that would be nice. Unfortunately this is not it. The selection is not there, and it doesn't really allow me to set any criteria (without which I could buy anything and there'd be no problem to solve). The site also fails to provide an easy-to-glance overview of the differences between alternatives.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by boobsbr » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 10:53 AM UTC

elktea wrote: post #178

sirodoht wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For the record, the naming scheme is something like this: e.g. i7 4770K i[digit] is the series, i3 means starter, i5 mainstream and i7 performance (that's not entirely accurate but it is accurate enough). Then the four digit number is of no obvious logic across the generations. But, the first digit shows the generation, so 4 means haswell, which is the fourth Core iX generation. 3 is ivy bridge, 2 is sandy bridge and…

K also means virtualization features are missing. Hugely important, these days.

I thought 'K' meant unlocked multipliers.

You're right about virtualization, though. Some features are missing.

http://ark.intel.com/compare/75123,75122

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by sspiff » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 10:58 AM UTC

yaeger wrote: post #189

jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

Speaking of compatibility: Does nobody care to check the mainboards support site for compatibility lists? This one, for example: http://uk.pangoly.com/en/build/configure/pro When you select the asrock mainboard, you are presented with these three choices of RAM: http://uk.pangoly.com/en/review/corsair-vengeance-16gb-2x8gb... http://uk.pangoly.com/en/review/patriot-viper-3-16gb-2x8gb-2... http://uk.pangoly.com/en/revi…

I've had this issue as well, but that was over a decade ago, when using a smaller brand (ECS) mainboard for an Athlon XP. Eventually it was discovered that the mainboard didn't support Corsair memory, and the shop traded me some Kingston modules.

I have built many systems for myself, friends and family since, and never encountered this issue again.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by moe » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 11:49 AM UTC

vacri wrote: post #171

drzaiusapelord wrote: post #106

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> $400.00 PC from your service could rival or beat a console. I recently got the itch to buy the Xbox One. I had the 360 before it with the Kinect and it was a passable party game machine, but I usually game on an old-ish desktop that maybe I've invested $600 in over the past four years. i5, 7000 series AMD card, 8gb ram, etc. Seems to handle any modern game I can throw at it. With a copy of Watchdogs that Xbox turne…

Gaming segments are weird. Console gamers generally pay 'full price', PC gamers generally want to pay half that, and mobile gamers have trouble with the concept of shelling out double digits.

and mobile gamers have trouble with the concept of shelling out double digits.

They make up for it by pouring insane amounts into pay-to-play sinkholes such as Clash of Clans.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by hoektoe » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 11:58 AM UTC

Hello

I haven't used pcpartpicker, but went to have a quick look compared to yours. I can see a lot of work has gone into it. I like that you don't have to navigate away from the page.

1) Images are bit big 2) At first I struggled finding the divisions of parts. Maybe close all accordions except the first. This way it might feel more like steps. Currently all "steps" are open and options seem endless as its a page full of objects. Remember when scanning over a page, we basically first see a sillhoutte of major objects. 3) Maybe number accordions, so seems more like steps 1) Motherboard 2) CPU 4) Show important information without any action require by the user. Example some of the CPU's cannot immediately identify the Speed without reading the whole title.

Well done. Hopefully you see comments not as negative but constructive.

All of the best forwards

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by kbart » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 12:14 PM UTC

I wish somebody would make a similar web tool for the power users. I spend at least few days every few years browsing countless sites and forums trying to choose an optimal build when upgrading my desktop. It should satisfy at least these requirements:

1) include most of available parts, not just few trendy ones (in this site I got only 8 motherboards and 6 CPU's for AMD)

2) do price/performance analysis on fly (with referenced to sources) and unobtrusively show better candidates on this aspect in the same price range

3) show small summary on parts when clicked: exhaustive specifications, release date, current price (depending on region), available newer versions or successors (if any)

4) no ugly tablet orientated design with big pictures (and why would I care how my RAM looks like anyway?), but clean, slim list with advanced details. This site looks super ugly on my 22", full HD monitor.

I understand that the biggest problem is to maintain up-to-date database, but I would even pay few bucks to use such tool to save my time.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by tobz » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 12:58 PM UTC

ejjpi wrote: post #191

jjcm wrote: post #115

Your obvious rival here is PCPartPicker. Having used that extensively, here's some things I don't like about yours: Expert mode removes compatibility checks. This shouldn't be the case - as soon as I select an item, it should cull the results and show me only the intersection of items that are now compatible with my chosen piece of hardware. The lack of an ability to filter. Maybe I want to splurge more on a graphics…

Thanks for your constructive feedback. We are still under active development and we are rolling out new features every week. Although analogy with PCPartPicker was inevitable, I'd like to say we're not aiming on being its clone, we're not providing price comparison and they are already doing a great job providing extensive compatibility checks so there's no point wasting time reproducing what is already available. Pa…

So what benefit does your site provide? It sounds like all you really have is preconfigured builds in different levels of power - a sort of.. curated "best computer for $X" list.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by xyzzyz » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 2:47 PM UTC

xienze wrote: post #147

xyzzyz wrote: post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can guarantee that if you spend $1000 on new PC today, you'll be able to run all games at console quality for at least next 3-4 years, almost all in the next five years, and then still most of the games beyond that range. You'll also be able to run any of the thousands of games that have already been released on PC, a feat no console is able to do. I bought my PC 3 years ago for around that much (in country with hi…

> I can guarantee that if you spend $1000 on new PC today, you'll be able to run all games at console quality for at least next 3-4 years, almost all in the next five years Or I could spend $400 on a console and play every single available game at "console quality" for the life of the console, which is a good deal longer than 5 years. That, coupled with the fact that console games in general look pretty good, is the…

Here's the thing: all the games you buy for that console will also be playable on that PC, as long as they're not console-exclusive, so if you buy PC today, and 7 years from now a new game will be released on both XBox One and PC, you'll be able to play in it on your PC. The 3-4 year mark is for the PC-exclusive games.

Funnily enough, on PC, you'll also be able to play in previous generation console games (provided they've also been released on PC), and even in some next generation games that will be released on XBox Two or PlayStation 5. You will also have better video quality on PC for some games, you'll get a solid workstation useful for more activities than just gaming, and any additional cost you'll bear buying the PC will be recovered on the games prices.

Re: Show HN: Pangoly – Build your shiny new PC

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Post by owenversteeg » Wed, Jul 16, 2014, 4:27 PM UTC

First of all, what is that shiny gold motherboard [0] on the front page? Secondly, I recommend that you add Amazon reviews as another feature - just like price and performance. Also, I think you should add in some kind of metric for mice and keyboards - # of buttons, DPI, activation weight, etc. Finally, I really like the UI of your site. Although it may not be as feature-rich as some competitors, it seems many HNers have forgotten the importance of a good design.

[0] http://pangoly.com/images/main-mb1.png