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Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Using agents is programming. Programming is done with the mind, the tapping of keys isn’t inherent to the process.

Unfortunately IDEs are not yet directly connected to our minds, so there's still that silly little step of encoding your ideas in a way that can be compiled into binary. Playing the broken telephone game with an LLM is not always the most efficient way of explaining things to a computer.

Of course not. It’s a tool.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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To be clear, I see a lot of "magical thinking" among people who promote AI. They imagine a "perfect" AI tool that can basically do everything better than a human can. Maybe this is possible. Maybe not. However, it's a fantasy. Granted, it is a compelling fantasy. But its not one based on reality. A good example: "AI will probably be smarter than any single human next year. By 2029, AI is probably smarter than all hum…

> AI will probably be smarter than any single human next year. Arguably that's already so. There's no clear single dimension for "smart"; even within exact sciences, I wouldn't know how to judge e.g. "Who was smarter, Einstein or Von Neumann?". But for any particular "smarts competition", especially if it's time limited, I'd expect Claude 4.5 Opus and Gemini 3 Pro to get higher scores than any single human.

So we are back to the original comment that generated this thread: why hasn't AI generated a new and better compression algorithm, for example?

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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> What I needed was not a better app, but a way to tolerate imperfection without the whole system falling apart. > Claude did not invent that idea. It executed it. > Claude handled implementation. I handled taste. This style of writing always gets me now :)

This style of writing isnt human. Its AI. ^^ These dramatic statements are almost always AI influenced, I seem to always see them in people's emails now as well. "we didnt reinvent the wheel. we are the wheel."

And the scripts of most recent YouTube videos, and the dialogue in Stranger Things Season 5 (the last 3 episodes specifically).

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

#194
I'm not sure anyone commented on this but the usability of what he vibe produced is absolutely terrible.

It's amusing that the author might feel a sense of accomplishment and super powers when in fact this is a complete moo point in terms of real gain and a tool of entertainment (consumption) and not productivity as original intended.

There is a silver line in there, for the people that care about software.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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I have recently vibe-coded an Android app, written in Kotlin, to scratch an itch and also as an experiment as an LLM skeptical [1]. It's a greenfield app that basically displays read-only data that's retrieved from a REST JSON API, so it's where Claude Code should shine the most and... yes, I'm actually positively impressed! I would have never been able to write that app myself, and at least surely not over a weekend (while cooking and doing other things with my family).

I wanted to try a Show HN as well but I feared that the HN crowd would tear it and me down so... I didn't.

[1] check my comments history

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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Ok, but if you wrote some massive corpus of code with no testing it probably would not compile either. I think if you want to make this a useful experiment you should use one of the coding assistants that can test and iterate on its code, not some chatbot which is optimized to impress nontechnical people while being as cheap as possible to run.

>> Chatbot which is optimized to impress nontechnical people Is that how we call Opus 4.5 now? :-)

The name of the model is not the end of the story. There is a Pareto frontier of performance vs computational cost, and the companies have various knobs and dials they can tune to trade off performance for cost. This is why openai reports costs of $1k/problem when they test their models on the math/coding benchmarks, yet charge you only $15/month for a subscription to their web interface.

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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> AI will probably be smarter than any single human next year. Arguably that's already so. There's no clear single dimension for "smart"; even within exact sciences, I wouldn't know how to judge e.g. "Who was smarter, Einstein or Von Neumann?". But for any particular "smarts competition", especially if it's time limited, I'd expect Claude 4.5 Opus and Gemini 3 Pro to get higher scores than any single human.

So we are back to the original comment that generated this thread: why hasn't AI generated a new and better compression algorithm, for example?

As I see it, it's because it didn't want to.

Hear me out: let's say that generating a new and better compression algorithm is something that might take a dedicated researcher about a year of their life, and that person is being paid to work on it, in the industry or via a grant. Is there anyone who has been running Claude Code instances for a human-year in a loop with the instruction to try different approaches until it has a better compression algorithm?

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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> I own more books than I can read. > I started asking for things I did not need. For a community that prides itself on depth of conversation, ideas, etc. I'm surprised to so much praise for a post like this. I'll be the skeptic. What does it bring to you to vibe code your vibe shelf? To me, this project perfectly encapsulates the uselessness of AI, small projects like this are good learning or relearning experience…

I don't think you fully understood the purpose of the project. He wanted an end product (the bookshelf app) that he had been putting off due to the time commitment. He did not say he wanted to learn about how to program in general, nor did he even say he liked programming. People care about results and the end product. If you like to program as a hobby, LLMs in no way stop you from doing this. At the end of the day,…

I'm not trying to _convince_ a stranger on the internet whether to use AI for their vibe shelf hobby project; I'm engaging with a project being presented by it's creator. Interesting that you think continuing to use AI is some enormous own against my presumed attempt at persuasion. Sounds like maybe you're the one needing validation for your viewpoint. It's clearly easy to achieve such validation given the evidence in this comment section so, I'm not sure why you're seeking it from me.

As for the main concern in your comment, I did in fact read the blog post; see how I quoted multiple parts, verbatim ("word for word")?. I now understand this audience may not be entirely familiar with literature or reading beyond basic instructions from their preferred datacenter or advertising company, but generally the beginning of a piece of writing (the "introduction") serves as the premise while the end (the "conclusion") describes the abstract ideas a reader should take away from the entire piece. I'll even let you in on a little secret: the word "conclusion" is synonymous with "a judgement following logical steps". As I mentioned in my original comment there is also a middle section which can often be more important or meaningful (to both characters and readers) than the introduction or conclusion. Howver, in this piece of writing it amounted to "I didn't know how to do something so I asked AI and when it didn't do the right thing I asked it again" which isn't a very engaging story (there's a similar famous premise about an "oracle" that can respond to three "queries", however the entertainment relies on this limitation). Anyways, the badic premise seems to be well received already and lacking any interesting description of the process, I chose to engage with the conclusion. The question of taste.

The author believes, or rather instructed an LLM to generate an article from the perspective in which someone belives, generative AI can enable the good taste of someone in prototype hell to come to fruition. But in my original comment I'm making the point that creating something of good taste is inextricably linked to engagement with the medium. But the author shows a willful lack of engagement, with their medium whether that be software or a book shelf.

If you'd like to engage with my original comment in good faith, here are some questions: * do you really think this project constitutes good taste? for software? for book shelves? * can someone with an apathy for a craft as extreme the author have good taste? * might this even be considered bad taste given the technological sensibilities of this forum? (disdain for js bloat, foss, "elegant solutions")

Re: Show HN: Vibe coding a bookshelf with Claude Code

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I'm not sure anyone commented on this but the usability of what he vibe produced is absolutely terrible. It's amusing that the author might feel a sense of accomplishment and super powers when in fact this is a complete moo point in terms of real gain and a tool of entertainment (consumption) and not productivity as original intended. There is a silver line in there, for the people that care about software.

> complete moo point

Like a cows opinion - it doesn't matter?

> this is...a tool of entertainment (consumption) and not productivity as original intended.

And? I wrote BASIC as a kid, and everything I coded was for entertainment, not productivity.

The usability for him appears high. If you're building a tool just for yourself (or or fun), why does it matter?

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