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Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#191

Worth to mention as another alternative: Harper[0] [0]: https://writewithharper.com/

Harper is so basic that I can't recommend it. Does not catch a singular/plural discrepancy between the subject and the verb in a sentence--a common mistake when the expressed thought applies equally to one thing or to many things. Does not catch a missed indefinite article--a common mistake for speakers of languages that don't have articles. Similarly, does not catch the use of the indefinite article for a thing alre…

Open ticket about "don;t" typo, see https://github.com/Automattic/harper/issues/1559

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The kind of organization that identifies as an "international organization" is disproportionately likely to be hyperaware of its working language choice and standardize on a particular English dialect by policy and pick en-gb. Without such a conscious choice, yes, Americanisms do seem a fair bit more globally pervasive and easy to fall into "by accident".

I'm assuming we're talking NGOs here, because if we expand "organization" to include for-profit entities, then I'd argue vast majority of them will not just be US-English speaking, but US-originating and US-headquatered . > Without such a conscious choice, yes, Americanisms do seem a fair bit more globally pervasive and easy to fall into "by accident". You'd need choice and enforcement - unless such organization is t…

Majority counting by combined headcount of the organisation type maybe, but almost all multinationals are very big companies so by the law of "you get fewer number of pieces if each piece is large" there just aren't very many of them.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

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post #25

The screenshot shows the (corrected) example sentence: > Sometimes I still make mistakes with articles and prepositions, but my grammar is getting better every day I practice. In American/Simplified English, this is grammatically correct. However, in 'full fat' English, practice is a noun, whereas practise is a verb; e.g. : > I go to my practice to practise medicine. The problem I have with this website is that it's…

Case in point: "Is there a educational discount?" I believe this should say "an educational discount". I wonder if the tool would have caught it.

Did the website originally say this? I just checked and it says "an" now... Perhaps they didn't use their own tool when writing the web copy.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

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post #98
post #34

You can use a local instance of LanguageTool in a docker container for this: https://github.com/gardner/LocalLanguageTool

Gosh people love complicating things. You don't need docker (a Linux-only piece of tech) to run a java application. Even though I'm on Linux, and docker experience is waaaaay better here than on any other platform, I wouldn't in my life consider using it to run LanguageTool. java -cp languagetool-server.jar org.languagetool.server.HTTPServer

Gosh people love complicating things.

You don't need to fight with installing (the correct version of) java. I wouldn't in my life consider installing java on my OS directly.

For anyone with docker already installed (most people these days)...

  git clone git@github.com:gardner/LocalLanguageTool.git

  cd LocalLanguageTool

  docker compose up

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#195

> Powered by local AI models I worry that this will make my writing more likely to fail an AI coursework detector, which could really impact my life. The risk just isn't worth it till someone has tested the output through all the big players (turnitin etc.)

I don't think the risks are high with this. It's not writing for you. It's just correcting your grammar. If you're 99% writing it yourself and just having it highlight grammar mistakes I wouldn't expect it to trigger an alarm....... but I haven't been in school since waaay before LLMs were viable/common. So, maybe it's worse than I think.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#196
post #191

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Harper is so basic that I can't recommend it. Does not catch a singular/plural discrepancy between the subject and the verb in a sentence--a common mistake when the expressed thought applies equally to one thing or to many things. Does not catch a missed indefinite article--a common mistake for speakers of languages that don't have articles. Similarly, does not catch the use of the indefinite article for a thing alre…

Open ticket about "don;t" typo, see https://github.com/Automattic/harper/issues/1559

That's mine! And it's already fixed; I am indeed amazed by the developer's responsiveness.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#197
post #25

The screenshot shows the (corrected) example sentence: > Sometimes I still make mistakes with articles and prepositions, but my grammar is getting better every day I practice. In American/Simplified English, this is grammatically correct. However, in 'full fat' English, practice is a noun, whereas practise is a verb; e.g. : > I go to my practice to practise medicine. The problem I have with this website is that it's…

So apparently the tool is slanted toward American English where the non-word practise is properly treated as a spelling error like colour . If you use these words in writing for Americans and you are not a citizen of the British Commonwealth, you instantly mark yourself as arrogant.

I learned colour at school in France.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#198
post #33

Wonderful! I've given it a go, works in Apple's Notes app, but it does not seem to trigger suggestions in Chrome, Firefox or Slack. It does however highlight misspellings there. Any idea what can I do to enable suggestions there? I was looking for a product like this.

Same here, but Siri also does not trigger its textual improving LLM thingy in the context menu in Firefox.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#199

I'm a Linux adherent, but I can't understand how a "normie tool" like this wouldn't release to Windows first. You're hitting [1]: https://truelist.co/blog/linux-statistics/ https://gs.statcounter.com/os-market-share/

In spite of the market share figures, Mac apps have had a disproportionate share of of devs and users willing to pay for long time.

Love the pie graph that that adds up to 153%, though.

Re: Show HN: Refine – A Local Alternative to Grammarly

#200
post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is actually correct. I am neither American nor English.

That's certainly not the case in the majority of Europe, Australia, New Zealand, East Africa, West Africa, South Africa, PNG, Fiji, Philippines, South Asia and South East Asia. Really it's mostly just America and Canada that use American. I could cite many sources but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_s... provides a simple view.

American forms are definitely dominant in the Philippines, even in an official capacity. I can't comment on Africa, but I would also characterize SEA as American-leaning in the wild; en-gb dominates in education but largely illusory. Elsethread the same claim is made of the "majority of Europe".
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