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Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by fwip »

xrd wrote: post #4

As someone who isn't familiar with the norms of this community, the first few posts were somewhat surprising. I mean to say, they were overtly sexual and public. I have many trans friends and gay friends so I'm not saying I've never heard terminology like that, but it was usually in a closed conversation. I wonder if those are spam comments? It would be interesting to hear how you plan to guard against people who wil…

Most communities act differently when it's just themselves in a space they own, as compared to when they're in a space that is less homogenous. The queer scene is a lot more open with sexuality than the cishet one.

Even (cis) men have "locker room talk," things you wouldn't say when around most women.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by azeirah »

bun_terminator wrote: post #32
93po wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

dang, you have my endless gratitude for not allowing transphobia on HN

[flagged]

Trust me, there are many sufferable trans people. They're everywhere. The ones that are sufferable are the ones you don't notice :)

Disclaimer: what I wrote here is explicitly aimed at the post I replied to. Not to anybody else.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by azeirah »

oluckyman wrote: post #171
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In 2024 I went on a bit of a dating spree and I had first dates with 6 other trans women. 1 cis woman ghosted me. I think most cis women-who-love-women do like trans women, but they just have more options.

Indeed. It's hard to believe that until relatively recently people thought that sexual attraction was fundamentally based in biology rather than identity.

Sexual attraction is fundamentally based in biology.

Trans people are part of biology. It's what happens when you are exposed to cross-sex hormones.

Personally, I tend to view (my own) transition as embracing an intersex condition with medical intervention.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by technion »

Dalewyn wrote: post #165
hn_throwaway_99 wrote: post #134

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All the porn companies have handled this by simply blocking the sites in the states in question, just forcing people to use VPNs. If you ask for ID verification to see NSFW content they know hardly anyone would provide it, and at the same time it opens you up to a lot of liability in handling extremely sensitive PII. The whole thing is just moralistic BS anyway. I'm sure most kids can figure out how to use a VPN bett…

Pedantic, but the word you're looking for is proxy , not VPN. A Virtual Private Network is a private network such as a Local Area Network created virtually on a Wide Area Network such as the internet. Tailscale, SoftEther, or Hamachi for the old boys are examples of VPN implementations. A proxy is a server that accepts and forwards traffic from clients through it, lending its IP address to clients as the traffic orig…

I think this ship has sailed. Services like nord or mullad are described as VPN products yet they are the products people are buying to route traffic into pornhub.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by Dalewyn »

rUsHeYaFuBu wrote: post #173
Dalewyn wrote: post #165

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Pedantic, but the word you're looking for is proxy , not VPN. A Virtual Private Network is a private network such as a Local Area Network created virtually on a Wide Area Network such as the internet. Tailscale, SoftEther, or Hamachi for the old boys are examples of VPN implementations. A proxy is a server that accepts and forwards traffic from clients through it, lending its IP address to clients as the traffic orig…

Curious, does a proxy also tend to encrypt the data streamed between it and the end user like a VPN service would? That is, does the ISP have access to the information that's being accessed via the proxy? It was my understanding that proxies tending to mask where a request came from but does nothing significant with the data between it and the requester.

>does a proxy also tend to encrypt the data streamed between it and the end user like a VPN service would?

It could, but it's not a hard requirement. A proxy server is just like any other server, encrypting the data en route is as desired.

A VPN encrypts data as a part of securing tunnels, but it's not a hard requirement there either. As long as two computers can communicate over private IP address ranges on a WAN, it's a VPN. The Private in VPN indicates the scope of the network, not whether any data within is immediately accessible.

See also: "Private" and "Public" IP address ranges.

>does the ISP have access to the information that's being accessed via the proxy?

The ISP providing internet to the proxy server will know what the proxy server requests and receives.

>It was my understanding that proxies tending to mask where a request came from but does nothing significant with the data between it and the requester.

Correct. Again, whether the data a proxy server receives and forwards was encrypted is tangential to the task of forwarding data.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by mhitza »

rUsHeYaFuBu wrote: post #173
Dalewyn wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pedantic, but the word you're looking for is proxy , not VPN. A Virtual Private Network is a private network such as a Local Area Network created virtually on a Wide Area Network such as the internet. Tailscale, SoftEther, or Hamachi for the old boys are examples of VPN implementations. A proxy is a server that accepts and forwards traffic from clients through it, lending its IP address to clients as the traffic orig…

Curious, does a proxy also tend to encrypt the data streamed between it and the end user like a VPN service would? That is, does the ISP have access to the information that's being accessed via the proxy? It was my understanding that proxies tending to mask where a request came from but does nothing significant with the data between it and the requester.

Depends on the proxy. If you have an SSH server you can open a local socks5 proxy, that when configured in your browser sends all the traffic through your server. Since its a proxy over SSH it's all encrypted till your server, then whatever protocol the website uses.

VPNs are better (as in more ergonomic) in practice, since large sites tend to block access from known hosting providers (looking at YouTube not rendering video when accessed from a Hetzner server).

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by defrost »

groby_b wrote: post #189
mmooss wrote: post #152

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> "Cultural appropriation" is a fancy way to say "I only want to learn from people just like me". Cultural appropriation is learning about things only from people like you, not from the people outside your culture who created it and who may have jarring perspectives and expressions of them. For example - just something I recently saw - lots of 1950s-60s rock musicians like Elvis and the Rolling Stones appropriated mu…

"To be fair, the RS apparently often toured with some of the original musicians as opening acts" What more would you like? These notes have been played this way before, therefor no other group will ever play them again? Yes, the exploitation of other (especially minority) cultures is an issue. And that's very much not how "cultural appropriation" is used any more - it's very specifically used as "this belongs to that…

> it's very specifically used as "this belongs to that other group, nobody else can have it". And thus precludes any learning.

Nonsense. Whoever told you that was projecting.

Nothing precludes respectful collaboration and learning, eg: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHgdrzgtBik and numerous other examples.

Worthy of note here is the Rolling Stones learnt about US "black music" from UK record stores, many run by former post WWII US servicemen who preferred the UK to the US South and Jamacian and Trinidadian musicians from the former British slave colonies.

They attended "black" clubs and jammed with black musicians .. they had an experience uncommon in US.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by Diti »

fourside wrote: post #188
01HNNWZ0MV43FF wrote: post #86

Mobile app only and no source code? I appreciate the effort but I'll stick with Mastodon for now.

> no source code? The way that some people on HN so casually demand someone to build something and then completely give it away never ceases to disappoint. Thankfully the fact that this community is growing tells me this is not how most people think.

With the current politics, how do you expect minorities to trust a product with their identity and (sometimes) life, if you can’t inspect what’s being done with your data?

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by monktastic1 »

cynicalsecurity wrote: post #148
dang wrote: post #135

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No, "Minors can't learn of trans people? What other people should they be warned of, Jews?" is starting a flamewar. This is not a borderline call. I think it's pretty clear what "the flamewar style" means to anyone who's been around internet forums for a little while, but if you want a definition, it could be somewhere in the neighborhood of: conversation that's focused on aggressive/snarky/indignant expression for t…

Respectful conversation involves sarcasm and satire. I hope we are not in church to avoid using those. I wasn't using aggression against the person I was replying to and my comment was pretty calm, was it? What is really flamewary and pretty rude to say is stating that trans people need an NSFW tag. If you so much want to avoid flamewars, whatever this means, you probably should have replied to that person in the fir…

It's hard to discern whether you're misreading this whole thread on purpose or not. Nobody is claiming that trans content in general is NSFW, but that a certain subset of content therein, displayed openly on the site is -- which OP evidently agrees with. If you think OP is anti-trans, I don't know who you think is pro-.

Re: Show HN: I built an active community of trans people online

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Post by Dalewyn »

technion wrote: post #194
Dalewyn wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Pedantic, but the word you're looking for is proxy , not VPN. A Virtual Private Network is a private network such as a Local Area Network created virtually on a Wide Area Network such as the internet. Tailscale, SoftEther, or Hamachi for the old boys are examples of VPN implementations. A proxy is a server that accepts and forwards traffic from clients through it, lending its IP address to clients as the traffic orig…

I think this ship has sailed. Services like nord or mullad are described as VPN products yet they are the products people are buying to route traffic into pornhub.

Seeing as Hacker News is ostensibly composed largely of people in-the-know, we could certainly use appropriate terminology unlike the commons.
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